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| Thread ID: 48375 | 2004-08-21 06:22:00 | Gentoo Linux... feedback please | chiefnz (545) | Press F1 |
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| 263929 | 2004-08-21 23:28:00 | This is a really interesting topic. Would stage 1 be similar in its aims to Linux from scratch? |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 263930 | 2004-08-22 00:17:00 | > This is a really interesting topic. > Would stage 1 be similar in its aims to Linux from > scratch? I haven't tried LFS, but it is very similar. You are basically building a Linux OS from the ground up yourself. You choose exactly what your want for it rather than using the choices supplied with a standard Linux distro OS. You also get to control what sort of support/coding you want included. Most distro's will support a wide range of processors eg i386 up to i686 which means there is a lot of unnecessary code included. You can specify what support you only want in your compiled packages. You can see some example of the flags you can use here (www.freehackers.org). You can also specify using USE flags to define what sort of package support you want. For example, I use Gnome on my Gentoo system, so I have set a USE flag that removes any optional KDE support for that package. Why have superfluous coding for something you don't require? Also works the other way, and I can specify what optional support I want included if available for my compiled packages. So you can see the attraction of Gentoo whereby if used correctly, you can have a lean OS compiled specifically for the hardware it will run on and the environment you wish it to run under. :) Very Geeky :D |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 263931 | 2004-08-22 00:39:00 | >So you can see the attraction of Gentoo whereby if used correctly, you can >have a lean OS compiled specifically for the hardware it will run on and the >environment you wish it to run under. >Very Geeky Thats neat, I have always been a bit uneasy about all the stuff that comes with a Linux distro. All I need is a bit of time & I wouldn't mind giving it a go. One of the big things about Linux for me anyway, is that its taught me a lot more about computing than otherwise would have been the case - given a bit of understanding. I currently have Libranet 2.8 on a partition on a second drive (XP Pro on the rest of the machine). When I'm ready to go, do you think it would be a good idea to download Gentoo, onto this partition (I have wireless broadband) and install from there. Or I suppose I could burn a cd & start that way. I could run a risk of wrecking Libranet entirely & failing with Gentoo, but thats all part of the fun of it, I guess. I hope its alright to butt in on this thread. |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 263932 | 2004-08-22 00:52:00 | No worries about it, its still Gentoo related. Its similar to LFS except you're not manually punching in all the compile flags yourself which is bloody laborious! I tried LFS but it was just too much work. You can add the portage package management system to LFS if you wish, but the arguement is you may as well Stage1 Gentoo! I too wasnt happy with all the extra "un-needed crap" that comes with Distro's. Gentoo fits me perfectly giving me the power over my PC that I want! Stage1 and Live CD are only 70-ish MB combined but there's then all your source code on top of that. Ive got about a Gig from two months worth sitting in /usr/portage/distfiles, but thats KDE stable, KDE-3.3_beta2, Enlightenment (Which needs a ton of GNOME libs), two Firefox's, three Thunderbird versions... etc etc. Give it a shot, as Jen and ILL will tell you its well worth it! Chill. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 263933 | 2004-08-22 01:12:00 | >You can add the portage package management system to LFS if you wish, but the arguement is you may as well Stage1 Gentoo! Stage1 Gentoo it will be! >Give it a shot, as Jen and ILL will tell you its well worth it! Why not. What have I got to Lose. Better get that manual first I 'spose :) |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 263934 | 2004-08-22 01:25:00 | I find the easiest way is to grab the manual while you've got the Live CD booted. Firstly, set the root password: passwd [enter root pwd] [retype root pwd] Then, hit Ctrl + Alt + F2, login as root and type: links2 gentoo.org You've now got a web-browser you can use to access the Install Guide, and hit Ctrl + Alt + F1 to switch back to installation ;-) ...Saves on 96 pages for those of us who cant use work and are stuck with slow 4ppm Inkjet printers at home :p Chill. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 263935 | 2004-08-22 01:42:00 | That sounds like a good idea. Thanks Chill. Just as an aside. How did you get on with that "BootLt Ng" link I posted. |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 263936 | 2004-08-22 02:40:00 | I'm downloading now, x86-minimal-2004.2.iso. Using XP, if you please :O So I guess it looks like stage1. |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 263937 | 2004-08-22 03:52:00 | >Give it a shot, as Jen and ILL will tell you its well worth it! Hell it's worth it. Btw: i dont think that the minimal cd included stage1 tarball so you will have to do get that as well. |
ilikelinux (1418) | ||
| 263938 | 2004-08-22 03:54:00 | oh i forgot: read the manual very closely . |
ilikelinux (1418) | ||
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