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| 264617 | 2004-09-09 23:22:00 | So only brand name comps are reliable and suited to the user?,thats a pretty narrow view to take. The pros and cons of brand name comps are drasticlly onesided,should i make another huge post listing them? Number 1 on the list would be recovery CD's,they are nothing but a money saving tactic and fraught with disadvantages,even more pronounced now with the patches needed for XP,Good luck to Granny reformatting and hitting the internet unpatched/protected. |
metla (154) | ||
| 264618 | 2004-09-09 23:27:00 | > Godfather,Your post says nothing . > > Nothing at all . > > I'm amazed . > > Truely . > > You guage it on market share? . . . . Thousands watch > Shortland street,that doesn't make it quality > programing,The fastest selling album in history was > by N'Sync,that doesn't make them better then the > Beatles,No matter what the fans think . Popularity is a > poor yardstick to measure by,and something i would > attribute to the ignorant,which your not so . . . . meh . > For a contrasting view, I find Godfather's post logical, informative, reasonable and factually based . Not to mention the supportive outcomes of his own personal experiences . You cannot compare television programs or musical trends, people don't make large capital outlays for material products in those examples . Such thinking lacks depth and any real perception or deeper understanding of marketplace behaviour . market share in relation to television programming is all about product advertising, closely linked to the popularity of the program content, but absolutely nothing to do with the quality of that content . Compaq, Dell, HP etc all succeed because they provide sound, reliable products tailored to the need of their primary market which is the corporate business world . Their consumer products are similarly tailored to users who want a standard computer that performs the basic functions of word processing, spreadsheets and web surfing etc competently and reliably . This is a different world to that inhabited by gamers, experimenters, edge-workers and users who want to explore the outer limits of computing and computing technology . Your analysis lacks depth of understanding of marketplace dynamics and business needs . That is not a criticism of you personally, you are clearly knowledgeable, competent and experienced in your market niche . But that is no reason to criticise Godfather's superior understand in this particular area, and quite a few others from my long reading of his posts . Your closing remark (meh) is meaningless and is also disrespectful to Godfather . If you cannot express yourself better or more eloquently than that, then you don't really have an argument worth posting in this specific instance, a qualification I stress to make clear, in order to avoid another flame war . If it was intended as a joke, then qualify it with an emoticon as I was recently advised to do (and have started doing to avoid the wrong meaning being taken in future posts) . Customised computers do not suit every need, and just about everybody succumbs to the prebuilt model when they buy a laptop, so clearly the concept can't be all that bad . What qualifies me to comment on marketing practices? I have formal tertiary qualifications in marketing and business management . Spence |
Spencer (5624) | ||
| 264619 | 2004-09-09 23:27:00 | >Metla, you've got an aversion to Dells About time someone picked that out,Surprised it wasn't thrown at me much much earlier. >Metla, I think you have less of a problem with Dells than you do with the type of buyer who comes to the conclusion that Dells are a good buy. Thats interesting,I shall have to quietly contemplate that. >And even if you query the quality of components going into such very cheap PCs, if the vendor handles warranty repairs/replacements efficiently, what's the worry? Because the price of a brand name power supply can be over $350, thats fine while under warrenty,but a major kick to the goolies to anyone after the warrenty has expired. |
metla (154) | ||
| 264620 | 2004-09-09 23:31:00 | >So only brand name comps are reliable and suited to the user?,thats a pretty narrow view to take. I didn't say that Metla, please don't words in my mouth. >Number 1 on the list would be recovery CD's,they are nothing but a money saving tactic and fraught with disadvantages,even more pronounced now with the patches needed for XP,Good luck to Granny reformatting and hitting the internet unpatched/protected. I do not disagree with you. I did say you had a valid objection. But you claimed that Godfather said nothing, which wasn't true. I was merely trying to point out that for many people, using different criteria, they come to a different conclusion, and you cannot just say they are all wrong. If you want to run a campaign on the abolition of recovery disks fine, I won't argue with that, but you cna't just write of all Dell PCs based on that. |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 264621 | 2004-09-09 23:35:00 | >So only brand name comps are reliable and suited to the user?,thats a pretty narrow view to take. >>I didn't say that Metla, please don't words in my mouth. That entire post was directed at Godfather......... |
metla (154) | ||
| 264622 | 2004-09-09 23:37:00 | My aplogies. Flat threaded view. | Biggles (121) | ||
| 264623 | 2004-09-09 23:47:00 | And seeing as i'm so one sided in the matter, I believe that a Dell or other brand name comp is a wise choice when buying in bulk for busines use. And are always going to be a viable option for someone who just wants to grab one off the shelf with no thought to the purchase and start surfing. I would however suggest that only the cheapest option is worth following,they scale badly as far as price goes,and if you have more then $999 to spend then to look elsewhere. |
metla (154) | ||
| 264624 | 2004-09-09 23:53:00 | Agreed. If they are used for the tasks they were designed for they work fine. If you think you may want to upgrade parts later on as your needs change then you get better value elsewhere. | Sb0h (3744) | ||
| 264625 | 2004-09-10 00:09:00 | >If you think you may want to upgrade parts later on as your needs change then you get better value elsewhere . Agreed . The difference being if you're forward thinking enough to plan for future upgrades then you're going to be thinking about what kind of MB you have, what slots are on the board etc and at that point you've stepped beyond buying an off-the-shelf PC anyhow . There's a whole type of user for whom "upgrading" means replacing the whole PC just because the graphics arten't up to snuff . They'll play games until it starts to drive them crazy then go and buy a new PC . At which point, they'll buy another Dell . . . |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 264626 | 2004-09-10 00:12:00 | I would say it was better for a neophyte to spend $1000 on a Warehouse Dell than being ripped by $4000 for a similiarly specced Compaq at Noel Leeming, or Bond & Bond, or <insert home appliance store here>. | antmannz (28) | ||
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