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| Thread ID: 48489 | 2004-08-24 20:00:00 | spelling errors, | Earnie Moore (5918) | Press F1 |
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| 265052 | 2004-08-29 00:23:00 | andrew 93: And when you got to the END of that article, you discovered where I found my quote... |
Laura (43) | ||
| 265053 | 2004-08-29 00:26:00 | I guess I'm old-fashioned . :| To me, accurate spelling and punctuation, along with reasonable adherence to the rules of grammar is a matter of standards, and more importantly, pride . It is a personal thing to me but if I just allowed my posts or any other documents I write to stand exactly as they emerge from my two flying fingers, typos and all, I would be mortally embarrassed to have people read them like that and think that was the best I could do, or that I didn't know better . I make no criticism of those for whom English is a second language, I admire their adaptation and skill, but native-born English speakers should be able to do a little better than some of the efforts we see . As an national examiner for many years in my particular discipline, I never once penalised a candidate for poor spelling, but if their grammar or punctuation made their intended meaning unclear, I could not allocate the marks . It was not for me to second-guess their intent . I occasionally have to point out to my children that a sentence they have written has been rendered meaningless by errors in grammar and construction (that is, when my opinion is asked for!) and they are gradually learning that accuracy of expression can indeed be very important to their future . In business those grammatical, punctuation and spelling errors can be the source of litigation, so yes, spelling and punctuation do matter . When one gets into a dispute where intent is unclear and the parties are divided, the words mean exactly what they say, no more and no less . Intent lies within the mind of the writer, so courts can only determine the meaning of the words as written . Yes, language is dynamic and continues to evolve through common usage . However, IMHO that evolution is via the adoption of new words and meanings more often than through variations in grammar, punctuation or spelling . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 265054 | 2004-08-29 00:39:00 | Well put Billy and some classic examples : What is that in the road ahead? What is that in the road, a head? Woman without man, is nothing. Woman : without, man is nothing. What is this thing called love? What is this thing called, love? |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 265055 | 2004-08-29 00:51:00 | Anyone noticed this subject looks as thou its spelt "spellinq errors," on the main page. Whats up withe bold underlining links. | Rob99 (151) | ||
| 265056 | 2004-08-29 01:24:00 | > I guess I'm old-fashioned.:| You might be, but the grammar and spelling in your posts is the mark of an educated and intelligent person as distinct from some of the posts on this forum. I completely agree with your comments Billy T and wish I could have expressed them as clearly myself. Anyone who says spelling is not important is showing complete ignorance of the real world. If you go for a job interview and have to complete some written questions and the result is bad grammar and spelling the perception is that you are uneducated, unintelligent or just lazy. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant as first impressions are very important and the person that can read, write and spell in a reasonably accurate and comprehensible manner will be perceived as more educated and informed then someone who can't put a sentence together correctly without major spelling mistakes. There are some on this forum who can't even be bothered to start sentences with a capital letter and this in my opinion is just a "who cares" attitude which generally shows up in other things that they do as well. Accuracy and attention to detail are very important whatever job you are doing and bad grammar and spelling just indicates to everyone that you are not concerned about these details or care enough to make an effort to correct mistakes. |
Jim B (153) | ||
| 265057 | 2004-08-29 01:50:00 | To all those who think they make a point by correcting spelling . . . . Meh . . . . who cares . Find something better to spend effort on, rather then the business of others . This forum and day-to-day goings on are not a job interview, and have scant relevance to the "real world" . By all means those that care should maintain their own standards, but learn to suck it in when it comes to other people . Its not appreciated and unwarranted, its about as relevant as stopping someone in the street and berating them over they way they dress . Bad manners all around and pointless, You do not have the god given right to define to anyone what exactly the English language is, its far bigger then you, people like you or your efforts to lock everyone else into your narrow minded view of the world . |
metla (154) | ||
| 265058 | 2004-08-29 02:21:00 | Well done metla. Nice post, well constructed and good spelling. I see you have been listening and taken all the advice on board. Aim for perfection in everything you do, nothing is too trivial. If it is not perfect then you have done your best and that is all anyone can ask of you. |
Jim B (153) | ||
| 265059 | 2004-08-29 02:40:00 | Ebb and flow.… No need to regiment the mind to such a degree as to think that those that have different ideals are less intelligent. |
metla (154) | ||
| 265060 | 2004-08-29 02:42:00 | well said that man !!!!!! I'm reminded of a quote (don't know who said it ) "For want of a letter, a word was lost. For want of a word, the message was lost. For want of a message, a life was lost.” icy |
icyred (5795) | ||
| 265061 | 2004-08-29 04:24:00 | I rather think you have completely and utterly missed the point Metla. Nobody was correcting spelling or worrying about the quality of posts on PF1. They have been debating the importance of paying attention to spelling and grammar, and the concurrent need to have standards in education and business. That is how I read it anyway. It is not the careful people who end up "sucking it" as you so eloquently suggested, it is the careless people who make mistakes that cost them money who end up "sucking it" big time. Given the choice of dealing with a person who corresponds in reasonable English and has a range of expression that goes a little beyond "Meh", and somebody who displays a casual attitude to correspondence, most businesses will minimise their risk and go for one that seems able to speak and write English. However, it is a free world and I would not deny you the right to suck it as hard and as often as you choose, just don't try to tell the rest of us what we can discuss in an OT thread. Caring and standards are synonymous. Neither can exist without the other. Spencer |
Spencer (5624) | ||
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