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Thread ID: 48672	2004-08-29 13:46:00	Web Developer Positions	Captive (3159)	Press F1

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266701	2004-08-30 03:42:00	I used to use http://www.brinkster.com but have converted to professional software, hosting and domains lately... I am sort of glad I have grown enough to be able to do it to pretty professional standards, but 5 years now I may look back and think things have improved even more, hopefully to the point of full time work *hopefully* Ideally I think its best to use professional pay hosting, paid domains etc, I guess there has to be the budget to support it though.	Captive (3159)
266702	2004-08-30 03:48:00	I would like to suggest you work for a web development company for free. It gets your foot in the door and will quite often lead to a permanent position. My partner worked for free at a web design company part-time while completing her training. By the time she had completed her course they had a full-time position waiting for her, no competition and no interview. There is a lot to be said for showing some intiative and offering your skills for nothing as a trial for prospective employers.	Sb0h (3744)
266703	2004-08-30 03:53:00	Thanks for the suggestion :-D I have thought about that, especially if it leads to good experience, because even if I dont get money i will get more skill :-) I have been thinking of doing a maildrop... My classmate said just do heaps of emails but thats spamming and I want to stay clear of that to keep to good net etiquette. I was thinking maybe the Herald advert might give the work opporunities a kick start. I should probably add a line to the advert which is something like 'Will consider working for free for web firms in exchange for experience' Herald advert is here www.creightonbrown.geek.nz still working on it :-) I was trying to keep it small so it doesnt end up costing a bomb, but maybe I should make it a bit bigger for your suggestion :-)	Captive (3159)
266704	2004-08-30 03:59:00	Welcome to Oaro is currently in development, it's our family batch, should realy get off my backside ang get these things sorted and finished.	Rob99 (151)
266705	2004-08-30 13:54:00	What skills do you possess? Do you have a portfolio of sites that you've created? I use to be in the web developing scene but dropped it for a more challanging position. I still get client requests for web designing and if it's not too much of a hassle I could do it, but I still get requests for new sites which require site designing, images, testing and debugging and the optional content manager. If you can do websites for small-large businesses then I might have a few big clients you could get hold of. Obviously you would know static HTML but what about dynamic web languages, databases and the ability to create sites that are easily maintainable by the people you develop them for.	chameleon_coder (6050)
266706	2004-08-30 14:04:00	1] Skill list in resume www.creightonbrown.geek.nz 2] Some is online Note that I studied at Media Design School and have much more skill than I have been able to apply now due to lack of clients, in the programming and database sense especially http://www.digitalbuilder.co.nz 3] Familair with HTML Lots of ASP ASP, Some PHP/CFM. Lots of MS Access, Some MS SQL/MySQL I come from more of a you design to use it background :-) Example estimated experience www.creightonbrown.geek.nz 4] One of my last web dev projects, waiting on client graphics from his graphics person http://www.101gap.digitalbuilder.co.nz/ Example non technical plan www.creightonbrown.geek.nz Thanks for messaging me :-)	Captive (3159)
266707	2004-08-30 14:43:00	I'd give you some good advice except that you're also based in Auckland and I don't want to help my opposition. Suffice it to say, you shouldn't even remotely be thinking about working for yourself if you're not prepared/able to sell your services. Do what any sales rep does and get onto the telephone and cold call! Or walk the streets and visit businesses. I have a target of one new customer per week, and I don't stop phoning each week untill I get it. Nowadays I only have to spend a couple of hours per week to achieve this. Sometimes I don't have to phone at all because of word-of-mouth references - I even have a couple of customers overseas who've heard about my services from other customers	Greg S (201)
266708	2004-08-30 14:51:00	Wow man with a portfolio like that, 12 sites, you should just walk into the company who you want to work for, sit down, and start working. I'm sure if they saw what you have been up to they wont kick you out, they would give you your own office. Plenty of info on your site, not sure if thats too much.	Rob99 (151)
266709	2004-08-30 14:51:00	Thanks for the feedback Greg I have actually applied to some firms now trying to work with them. Basically I feel that by teaming up with someone I am hoping they can take care of more of the marketing/sales side as well as the graphics and I can focus on my strengths. I have gone shop to shop a little bit, but Sales & Marketing isn't a strongpoint of mine which is why I have been considering joining another firm or working with other people. Out of curiousity is it possible you could mention your site? I am keen to see others work :-) I have literally surfed 600+ 'Web Designer' pages listed on www.nzs.com and 3500+ listed on Yahoo]	Captive (3159)
266710	2004-08-30 14:56:00	Hey Rob99, Thanks for you feedback too :-) I am really hoping someone out there will be like, he's a good sort and with a bit more XP I could hopefully be tops. At this stage just trying to get my foot in the door to complete the package as per my last message [To get others help with graphics and Sales and Marketing] When I get paid from a contract I plan on running a herald advert, maybe that will be enough for a firm to give me a start. If its not I may also consider doing a mail drop to firms. I have been working part time at it now for awhile, I am really starting trying to develop the nous to turn it into a full time option whether employed or sole trade/LTD etc	Captive (3159)
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