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267739 2004-09-01 04:10:00 I was just wondering if anyone else here new that the southern cross - the loop connecting new zealand with the rest of the world - is being used at only 25% of its capacity.

Why? Because if it used all of it, bandwidth would be too cheap, and greedy telecom want yet more profit....

one word.

bastards.

I would say more words, but this is a family forum :D
willie_M (5608)
267740 2004-09-01 04:17:00 Do you know their mother?

If the cable is being used at 25% of capacity, it's probably being charged for at about 30% of the amount which would be charged for full capacity. And full capacity would have no reserve.

It all costs money. The price doesn't asymptotically approach zero. :D

If you want gigabytes/second to your door, that's fine. Just be prepared to pay for it.
Graham L (2)
267741 2004-09-01 04:24:00 > I was just wondering if anyone else here new that the
> southern cross - the loop connecting new zealand with
> the rest of the world - is being used at only 25% of
> its capacity.

Where did you hear this Willie? Is there an article on the web? I'm not an Engineer but I would have thought that some redundancy would have been necessary as part of a larger plan. Plus I thought Telecom didn't own all of the cable - wasn't it a joint venture with a couple of other companies and they only own half?

However, I did find some intereting articles about submarine cable loops here (www.reach.com) and here (web.ptc.org).
andrew93 (249)
267742 2004-09-01 07:13:00 It's my understanding that the Southern Cross cable has only a fraction of it's capacity as willie says.

However, the cable was designed to have spare capacity, so as to alleviate the need to immediately commence the sinking of new cable. There was a estimate of the number of years before planning for a new cable would be required - can't remember where I saw it tho.
antmannz (28)
267743 2004-09-01 11:25:00 It was in one of my lectures..

>However, the cable was designed to have spare capacity, so as to alleviate the need to immediately commence the sinking of new cable.

Yes but at the state of this countries internet, they should have whipped the rest out no prisoners by now.

greedy bunch of so and so's!!!

(notice the family content?)
willie_M (5608)
267744 2004-09-01 11:29:00 I think also that if they did immediately vamp up the speeds of every connection in the country, therefore using up more the vast majority of the cables bandwidth, they would have issues worrying about the possibility of it being overloaded, and degraded performance as a result of it.

The idea of faster National bandwidth seems appealing to me!
Chilling_Silence (9)
267745 2004-09-01 17:34:00 Please don't tell us anything we have known for years, this is nothing but a time wasting thread, Please inform us all when it does change.

<PLONK>
Earnie Moore (5918)
267746 2004-09-01 17:57:00 Hi everyone it is going to be a nice day today. and I have already cooled down.

willie_M the government of the day would not let anyone else (i.e. Telsa-clear), on the telephone copper wire, this government must be dumped next election, and get some other government that will not let a New Zealand business run as a dictatorship rip off company. So the people of New Zealand can have a real choice without been screwed.

Please everyone change the government, before you bad mouth Telecom at this forum again, and we will see what a new government will do.
Earnie Moore (5918)
267747 2004-09-01 18:13:00 You sound like a Telecon Employee. And by changing Government will not change anything in the telecom regime. Annanz (3044)
267748 2004-09-01 19:28:00 &gt; You sound like a Telecon Employee . And by changing

No I am not, I work for a idiot manufacture in Gray Lynn, I did my apprenticeship in a electronics factory, and had none of the problem I get at this place, because they were professionals, in fact I was going to ask the group if anybody could use a hard working joker . They will not be disappointed .

&gt; Government will not change anything in the telecom
&gt; regime .

I disagree, unless Telecom pay the government "under the table" so to speak, in which case you will be right, nothing will ever change .

Have a nice day Annanz and everyone else and don't let other idiots around you get on top of you, because when I do, I loose out every time .
Earnie Moore (5918)
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