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Thread ID: 48805 2004-09-01 11:12:00 faq #666 The truth about Video Cards **Beta** metla (154) Press F1
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268045 2004-09-02 00:58:00 aaaarrrrrgggghhh......i've created a demon....

as to covering cpu,motherboards,and ram,they could all just about have their own faq,once you delve into those subjects there is a lot of info to cover to do it properly.

Perhaps a seperate faq for each and one that ties them them alltogether,a system faq.
metla (154)
268046 2004-09-02 01:00:00 Then perhaps a brief explanation of the limitations of onboard would be warranted? eg, shared memory

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
268047 2004-09-02 01:02:00 Yep,thats a definite add-in. metla (154)
268048 2004-09-02 01:03:00 >The faq will have to be updated 3 or 6 monthly to stop it becoming irrilivent

try monthy if not weekly. it easier (for an FAQ) just to leave the prices out of it.

>>Ram-128mb vs 256mb-who cares
>Hmm...Don't quite follow your attitude in relation to this

because its only dealing with a current issue which won't really be relevent later on and performance vers cost takes care of it anyway.

>So do you suggest if someone asked about the difference between cards with different ram the best reply would be who cares?

i tell em .who cares......go buy whatever one that is the best performing for the $$ that is currently advailable.

>>AGP VS PCIe-again it dosn't matter to much
>I believe it does,especially to someone who may have been >contemplating retiring a card like a g4ti and buying a new motherboard

and exactly how many PCIe borads are advailable (single cpu) ?

>Aye?....Its an example of the tactics used by the big companies,its perhaps the most relivent point in the entire article.Old tech rebadged and marketed as part of the current(at the time anyway) range.

nothing wrong with old tech. they may be slow but they fill the budget market very well.

>Notice the first line?...it mentions video cards from a gamers view

The recommended cards are based on ability to run games and [b]value for money[b].

there isn't a card manafactured that can't run games no matter what manafacture.

>>rember that chip makers only make the chips, the manafactures add >>what ram, ramdac ,other features and support parts on to suit what >>market they are aiming for.

>Thats a falsehood,Both have been farming out production of the >chipsets,Plus any card released to the market has to have its specs >aproved by the company whose chipset design they use.Ultimatly ATI >and Nvidia are responcible for whatever makes its way to the shelves.

nope. nvidia, ati,via,sis all make reference designs to whiich most manafactures base their products on. they don't HAVE to stick to the reference design. nvidia etc don't have to approve each design, the simple matter of cost of designing your own board means most don't alter the reference design to much. the no boot nforce2 mobos are a classic example of what happens when you shortcut the reference design.
tweak'e (174)
268049 2004-09-02 01:03:00 and perhaps a section on system bottlenecks. metla (154)
268050 2004-09-02 01:12:00 Tweak,you have missed the point of the faq,to cover the questions that arise in these forums,"who cares" is not an answer.

>there isn't a card manafactured that can't run games no matter what manafacture.

Excuse me?,Please load up prince of persia Sands of time on any non-dx9 card and get back to me.

>>nope. nvidia, ati,via,sis all make reference designs to whiich most manafactures base their products on. they don't HAVE to stick to the reference design. nvidia etc don't have to approve each design, the simple matter of cost of designing your own board means most don't alter the reference design to much. the no boot nforce2 mobos are a classic example of what happens when you shortcut the reference design.


Drop it,your wrong,Many pernerships have been cancelled due to Nvidia and ATI refusing to let manufactueres make changes to the reference design to early in the product cycle.They dont buy a lisence then just have the right to produce anything they want and slap a name on it.

Do you really think any lisencing agrement works that way?....The companies are not allowed to devalue a brand name whenever they feel like it.
metla (154)
268051 2004-09-02 01:15:00 > aaaarrrrrgggghhh......i've created a demon....

A monstrous demon :_|

> Perhaps a seperate faq for each and one that ties
> them them alltogether,a system faq.

Hmm... demonic spawn, Metla's brood. They can be tricky sods to birth though, backwards, sideways, upsidedown, but never straight forwards. You'll need someone to man (or woman) the forceps pal and administer the pain killers (best advice I can give here is copious quantities of alcohol). Then of course you will have to mother your clutch into respectable demonhood, any hint of the father contributing BTW ;\

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
268052 2004-09-02 01:21:00 >>nope. nvidia, ati,via,sis all make reference designs to whiich most >>manafactures base their products on.
Cant forget the beast that was XGI Volari ;)
Pete O'Neil (250)
268053 2004-09-02 01:51:00 and i even forgot "Intel , the current market leader in the graphics chip business" ....arggghhhhhh ;-) tweak'e (174)
268054 2004-09-02 01:59:00 > Perhaps a seperate faq for each and one that ties
> them them alltogether,a system faq.

one faq to rule them all, one faq to find them ?

cheers

icy
icyred (5795)
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