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268269 2004-09-03 01:33:00 It is true that fees vary, you will also note that quality of work varies:

I wouldn't expect to pay $20,000 to buy a mercedes new typically

It's the same with websites, You get what you pay for

And actually from viewing in excess of 3500 web designer sites and compiling the professional quality ones I believe my prices are at the low end of professional.

There is also people out there who code pages $15/Hour and dont know how to design databases properly or maintain proper standards.

If you consider that it may cost $5,000-$10,000 alone to become skilled to a professional standard

I agree that prices will be cheaper, but consider that the experience, study or otherwise to make decent quality work is also an investment.

You go out there a look at the top web designers, see how many will do a professoinal tailor made ecommerce site for $300.00

Example Web Designer Listing:
www.creightonbrown.geek.nz

To summarise you get what you pay for
Captive (3159)
268270 2004-09-03 01:44:00 >>You go out there a look at the top web designers, see how many will do a professoinal tailor made ecommerce site for $300.00


mine was free.
metla (154)
268271 2004-09-03 01:52:00 No offense mate, but it shows.

You compare your site to the likes of http://www.ascent.com then ask yourself if that would be free.

I didn't do ascent but what i am highlighting is with work you usually get what you pay for.

You run a computer store, you can get a 486 sometimes for free or $5.00. or you can spend money on a decent box. It's pretty obvious which one *generally* performs better.
Captive (3159)
268272 2004-09-03 01:53:00 You might want to consider what some people offer

Giving you a script + a template might cost $150 or more. For professoinal quality ones there is X-Cart which ranges around the $1200.00 for a professional version + customisations and graphics

You use a script you will be bound to its applicability, such as complying to the way it has been coded and support and future improvements may be dictated by the licence ability or those either capable or approved to modify it.

I think people who are serious about their business will get something that suits their business model, and meets *their* needs.

You can buy a suit from a budget shop or get one designed to your needs, i can't say one option is always best.

Just consider though that $2,000 for a custom built site is cheap, it includes systems analysis, programming, validation and a lot more than people who go through and offer some script, put in a username and password for it slap on a template and say its an ecommerce solution which is cheaper and of the same standard.

In an ecommerce report from www.ecommerce.govt.nz it is highlighted that those that tend to spend more money tend to have better profits than those that spend less money. I believe part of this is the extra abilities which come with the cost such as more functionality, experience and other ramifcations of a professional service.
Captive (3159)
268273 2004-09-03 01:59:00 Let's not turn this into a debate of cost versus function. If something doesn't work, it's never cheap. Cost and function are not the only issues.
I thought the content was good, and prices didn't seem OTT.
People don't always want cheap, they don't always want rolls royce.
robo.
robo (205)
268274 2004-09-03 02:01:00 I can't disagree with Captives reasoning - I honestly couldn't even make a complex solution along the lines of Ascent, never mind give a price to make it. However the term "professional" should be used in it's proper context - my sites are professional, because they cost money to make and they make money for their owners. They're stylish, my customers and their customers like them, and nobody's had to outlay thousands. Because I use a free e-commerce solution doesn't mean it's cheap - it's just not expensive :D Greg S (201)
268275 2004-09-03 02:01:00 >> >> You go out there a look at the top web designers, see how many will do a professoinal tailor made ecommerce site for $300.00


>> mine was free.

You'll note i said professional web designer, or the equivelancy of, this means as there profession as opposed to a computer store owner or individual who makes a website. Sorry mate but i am trying to make it clear about profesional services as well, which differ from hobbyist servcies. You could get people who reach professional standards as a hobbyist, from my experience thus far though in examining others work i have generally almost always, no caclulated figure yet, found this to be the case
Captive (3159)
268276 2004-09-03 02:03:00 I can't disagree with Captives reasoning - I honestly couldn't even make a complex solution along the lines of Ascent, never mind give a price to make it. However the term "professional" should be used in it's proper context - my sites are professional, because they cost money to make and they make money for their owners. They're stylish, my customers and their customers like them, and nobody's had to outlay thousands. Because I use a free e-commerce solution doesn't mean it's cheap - it's just not expensive


From my dictionary I utilise

cheap adj. relatively low in price or charging low prices"it would have been cheap at twice the price""inexpensive family restaurants"adj. embarrassingly stingySee bumSee brassy
Captive (3159)
268277 2004-09-03 02:06:00 Anyway, I'll still call Captive when i get a job that's too complex for me ;) Greg S (201)
268278 2004-09-03 02:09:00 Kewl, thanks for the kind gesture :-)

Sorry if I am being a bit of hard ass in this regards.
Captive (3159)
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