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Thread ID: 48894 2004-09-04 04:11:00 still confused with northwood and prescott dirtbag (6060) Press F1
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269146 2004-09-14 02:32:00 >>WTF are you on about? Prescott when used in a socket 478 motherboard is slower than northwood, theres no debate about it . The only time that Prescott out preforms northwood is when used with the latest ATI chipset .


**Really sorry but I have read a heck of alot of site reviews and forums showing that above 3 . 5Ghz the Prescott matches and beats Northwood on the same system . I prefer to follow properly documented information from many then one post on a weblog . No offence .


>>Dude get over peliters there a heap of ****, if you want to overclock >>you have 3 options, high end air cooling, water or phase change . >> >>Peltiers are grossly ineffective and are very costly . Also need to take >>into account that the preformance gain from peltiers over water is >>very minimal and the increased cost is large .

**Did you actually read my reply?

**" The only question for me will be how to cool it?Water, Peltier or other . . "

**I haven't decided which way to go yet with it, just looking at the options .

>>Oh and another thing, because HardOCP saying a motherboard will >>do something doesnt many it will . My initial posts weren't intended for >>you, they were intended for Spacemannz .

**HAHA, again, if you read my original post at all, HardOCP was just ONE of many reviews of the motherboard I have seen . I only supplied two FYI, I was not going to link to half a dozen of them . I based my purchase on information from many, not just HardOCP .

**And no offence, but half a dozen or more websites and forums showing positive performance , and benchmarks for the product are enough for me to buy it and be happy with it doing what they say it does . Read the email in full next time before you reply with confusing comments .

This is my last post on this, I was just helping some oneout with info on the prescott which IS a very good chip above 3 . 5Ghz as shown by MANY on the web .

Not going to get into a flame war over nothing . Sheesh . But your last word will be interesting I spose ;) 		tminus (3476)
269147 2004-09-14 02:37:00 Can't we all just use AMD & Get along? ;\ MartynC (5610)
269148 2004-09-14 02:42:00 >>Can't we all just use AMD & Get along?


:)

classic ;) hehehehe 		tminus (3476)
269149 2004-09-14 03:19:00 > **And no offence, but half a dozen or more websites
> and forums showing positive performance , and
> benchmarks for the product are enough for me to buy
> it and be happy with it doing what they say it does.
> Read the email in full next time before you reply
> with confusing comments.
>
> This is my last post on this, I was just helping some
> oneout with info on the prescott which IS a very good
> chip above 3.5Ghz as shown by MANY on the web.
>
> Not going to get into a flame war over nothing.
> Sheesh. But your last word will be interesting I
> spose ;)

Your entitled to beleive whatever you wish, its just unfortunate that is wrong. I dont care if you've spent several years doing research, i read many reviews in my spare time as i like to keep up with the latest trends in hardware, you could post any link to a review and chance are i've read it. The original poster asked what would be faster a 3.0GHz Prescott or a 3.0Ghz Northwood. The answer to that question is that the Northwood would be faster, if you disagree with that then you've been reading the wrong reviews or can't read fullstop.

Your continual big noting about your overclocking is irrelivant, the original poster made no mention of overclocking. If you want to get into a wankfest about overclock start a new thread and i'll happily post overclocking results that are as impressive as yours if not more impressive.

I read your post (its not an email) and found there to be no relivant facts posted you were mearly justifing your choice of motherboard and CPU which has no relivance to this thread. I dont really care what motherboard and CPU combo you have at the end of the day its your choice. In my intitial post i was replying to Spacemannz post where he said that the Prescott was faster than Northwood @ 3.0GHz, perhaps i should have made it clearer. So to make things nice and easy for you as you have shown you have a tendecy to go overboard i'll say it again, my initial post was not a reply to you.

If you would like to get into a debate over what arictecture is faster feel free to start a new thread, but if you ask any true hardware enthusiast he'll tell you that at 3.0GHz the Northwood core is faster than Prescott. 		Pete O'Neil (250)
269150 2004-09-14 04:15:00 >>Your continual big noting about your overclocking is irrelivant, the >>original poster made no mention of overclocking . If you want to get >>into a wankfest about overclock start a new thread and i'll happily >>post overclocking results that are as impressive as yours if not more >>impressive .
>>If you would like to get into a debate over what arictecture is faster >>feel free to start a new thread, but if you ask any true hardware >>enthusiast he'll tell you that at 3 . 0GHz the Northwood core is faster >>than Prescott .

Huh?

I do agree with you there . 3Ghz Northwood is faster then 3Ghz Prescott .
I never said any different . Again, you do not bother to read .

And at 3 . 5 Ghz and above the Prescott equals Northwood in benchmarks and is faster too in most areas too .

And to quote yourself - this all applies to you too .

>Your entitled to beleive whatever you wish, its just unfortunate that is >wrong

>if you disagree with that then you've been reading the wrong reviews >or can't read fullstop .

I only go overboard when someone tells me I am wrong and then forgets to show their reasoning why .

Guys like you make me laugh . You shut down anyone who doesn't follow your opinions because "you" are right . Get over yourself, these forums are here to help and not to flame someones elses approach or system .

I offered the guy what I knew and BACKED it up with information and links about the differences between prescott and northwood .

And lets be honest, Prescott is the affordable processor core that Intel have chosen for the 4Ghz and up future domain,

I would prefer to trust Intels engineers and my experiences then a web list poster .

Classic . I guess there will always be egomaniacs roaming whatever thread someone comments on .

And if you are going to be picky about the difference between a post and an email, and whether or not I can read reviews fullstop . .

. . then maybe you should enable your spellcheck buddy and take a good long look at your grammar before writing another post cowboy .

Peace out . 		tminus (3476)
269151 2004-09-14 04:36:00 Intel suck .

































. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . HA . 		metla (154)
269152 2004-09-14 04:44:00 >I do agree with you there . 3Ghz Northwood is faster then 3Ghz >Prescott . I never said any different . Again, you do not bother to read .

>And at 3 . 5 Ghz and above the Prescott equals Northwood in ?>benchmarks and is faster too in most areas too .

So what your point? This whole thread is about 3GHz Northwoods and Prescotts, get a life and move on at no point did anybody ask for your reasoning on P4's at 3 . 5GHz .

**me sits and waits for tminus to come back and tell me that he saw it on the internet so it must be tru

>Guys like you make me laugh . You shut down anyone who doesn't >follow your opinions because "you" are right . Get over yourself, these >forums are here to help and not to flame someones elses approach or >system .
Guys like you make me laugh, in the PC ethusiast community we have names for people like you "n00b" and "tard" are a couple that come to mind . People who think that because they read it on the internet it must be right, have you yourself actually benchmarked a Northwood vs . Prescott?

>I offered the guy what I knew and BACKED it up with information and >links about the differences between prescott and northwood .
Wahoo cause HardOCP is such a reliable non-bias website ;) if you take what HardOCP write as gospel then your a bigger fool than i thought possible . I'm not even going to mention "hardcoreware . net" of the links you provided the only one worth even acknowledging would be legitreviews . And quite frankly i dont really care what core is faster @ 3 . 5GHz as A) there arent both prescott and northwood P4's avaliable at that speed to make a proper comparrison B) thats not the point of the discusion .

>And lets be honest, Prescott is the affordable processor core that Intel >have chosen for the 4Ghz and up future domain .
I'm not debating that, after you've finished being a pain in the ass let start a good ole fashion AMD vs Intel flame war ;)

>I guess there will always be egomaniacs roaming whatever thread >someone comments on .
Im gonna take that as a compliment . Excuse while i go off to polish my ego . 		Pete O'Neil (250)
269153 2004-09-14 04:53:00 Here we go again.... Susan B (19)
269154 2004-09-14 05:03:00 Guys like you make me laugh, in the PC ethusiast community we have names for people like you "n00b" and "tard" are a couple that come to mind . People who think that because they read it on the internet it must be right, have you yourself actually benchmarked a Northwood vs . Prescott?

**why yes, I have . And I stopped counting when the eighth Prescott system I built matched the many Northwoods I have also built .

**But then being a noob or tard pc builder and having built more systems then I can remember for paying customers for well over six years, Sh*t I am surprised they even run . And I don't consider myself a pc enthusiast . I consider myself a pc engineer .

So what your point? This whole thread is about 3GHz Northwoods and Prescotts, get a life and move on at no point did anybody ask for your reasoning on P4's at 3 . 5GHz .

**my point is 1 . ) you tell someone they are wrong and you are right . And make no reasonable explanation as to why .
2 . ) You conveniently don't read posts in full, and choose to hammer one or two sentences even when other parts of the post agree with you .
3 . ) The guy asked for the differences between the new Prescott and the older Northwood .


And , I will write this clearly -

I have no preference between Intel or AMD so I wouldn't be any good in a flame war . I have built many systems and networks based on both platforms for business and personal users and they both have their good and bad points .

Classic . Watch out for the ego once you've finished polishing it, might fall over and squash ya ;) 		tminus (3476)
269155 2004-09-14 05:06:00 Heathen,AMD have no bad points. metla (154)
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