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| Thread ID: 134837 | 2013-08-21 05:13:00 | Upcoming Energy Safety audit of your Trade Me item | 1101 (13337) | PC World Chat |
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| 1351725 | 2013-08-22 04:54:00 | That is rather idiotic. Most sellers wouldn't have a clue what electrical safety even means. Now what I want to know, is it Trade Me or the Government who came up with that one? |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1351726 | 2013-08-22 06:02:00 | Doesn't the fact that it is working prove that? No that proves that it goes. If a car runs and drives does that prove that it's safe? |
hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 1351727 | 2013-08-22 10:01:00 | How much would it cost to get an Electrical Safety Cert for your $10 Trademe toaster? Mind you, they don't say a registered/certified person must perform the test and produce the test report. You could plug the toaster in, confirm it doesn't go pzzt, then whip up a test report in Word... Unfortunately Jen, the Act and Regulations require that the tester be a licensed electrical worker, and there is an official format for certification as well. I think the web has been cast too wide in this instance, and it will either require modification or an official interpretation of its scope. It is a JCB being used to demolish a problem that doesn't actually exist. Be aware that this also applies to computers and any other item that is powered by the mains. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1351728 | 2013-08-22 10:11:00 | Unfortunately Jen, the Act and Regulations require that the tester be a licensed electrical worker, and there is an official format for certification as well. I think the web has been cast too wide in this instance, and it will either require modification or an official interpretation of its scope. It is a JCB being used to demolish a problem that doesn't actually exist. Be aware that this also applies to computers and any other item that is powered by the mains. Cheers Billy 8-{)pretty sure this is already required by second hand stores, and I presume Its the reason why some charity shops don't take electrical equipment. Why would trademe be any different ? |
plod (107) | ||
| 1351729 | 2013-08-22 19:23:00 | This regulation is almost as pathetic as the people supporting it. A money making parasite scheme for a few, an infernal nuisance for the rest of the world. (But, it may save lives almost as well as the anti-smacking legislation did. :( ) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1351730 | 2013-08-22 19:29:00 | You're kidding right? No. Are they? So all toasters, heaters, kettles, cooking appliances, actually anything with a plug on the end must now be tested and certified before you can sell it? Who came up with this rule? Just Trademe or all second hand stores and the likes of the Op Shops too?? Insane. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1351731 | 2013-08-22 22:20:00 | It'll likely just make more perfectly good stuff end up in landfill and have people buying new but probably less safe crap from China... I'd rather have something old that was built when people cared about quality. Where there's quality there's usually better safety as well. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1351732 | 2013-08-22 22:58:00 | For once the TM message boards seem useful... www.trademe.co.nz |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1351733 | 2013-08-23 00:12:00 | Perhaps there are just firing out warning shots , to scare everyone into compliance , Ill just dump stuff instead now. "there was 14000 email sent to Trademe Users. " I guess its alot easier to pick out trademe sellers, they never have to leave their desk to do it. :rolleyes: How about a trip down to The Warehouse, I'd bet alot of their cheap stuff wont be certified in any meaningful way. How about opening up some of Warehouses goods to see if it actually meets NZ reg's , basic stuff like having the 240v cable securely clamped & checking how those $10 power mulitboxes are wired internally . When you have to bash the plug to get it into a multibox, you know theres a big issue with it. |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1351734 | 2013-08-23 00:16:00 | No. Are they? So all toasters, heaters, kettles, cooking appliances, actually anything with a plug on the end must now be tested and certified before you can sell it? Who came up with this rule? Just Trademe or all second hand stores and the likes of the Op Shops too?? Insane. If you think that something stops working when it's faulty then you are very wrong. Earth bonding failing on your toaster/heater/ random non double insulated object in no way stops it from working. What it does stop is you being protected if you then have a chassis to live failure or some other bonding failure around the place where you become the path of least resistance! Insane. What they should do is not apply a blanket rule and only apply it to non double insulated goods. The problem being you then have to educate the public, avoid people using it as a way to get around the rule etc. |
Alex B (15479) | ||
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