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270689 2004-09-09 10:16:00 Hi chrisabnett. Your CD's did not come without some form of container. On my Office 2003 the Product Key is on a bright yellow label firmly attached to the back of the solid CD case, with suitable warnings about not losing same. Similar to those described by Mike and Godfather. Additionally, the CD's themselves are embossed with the most fancy holograms that I've seen, embedded right across the whole face of the CDs. How do your CD's look? Mine do not have any paper or other stuck-on labels on them. This posting will take a life of its own, with people suggesting that you obtained the CD's in all manner of ways - only you know and so far you have not mentioned that. Scouse (83)
270690 2004-09-09 10:18:00 Of course I couldn't let this go without mentioning the option of Open Office.
It doesn't solve your problem of how to get your version of MS office to work, but it doesn't involve activation or id keys either.....
Curious George (3535)
270691 2004-09-09 10:24:00 Of course MS wouldnt refund someone for buying pirate software,thats just redicules.

And going by the fact his software was packaged i can't imagine he has pirate software,they not going to burn it to cd and write on it with a felt tip,that would give the game away far to easily.

They just load it on and tell you it comes bundled.
metla (154)
270692 2004-09-09 10:40:00 >
> They just load it on and tell you it comes bundled.
>

Alot of pc retailers seem to do this now. I don't know about office but certainly with Windows XP.

A mate of mine had his pc crash. I went round to reinstall it all for him then found out that he didn't even have the operating system disk. Instead just a 'reinstallation disk' and a partition with the operating system on it. No proper disk.
This was HP and wasn't even a cheap system for what he had.
Anyway - turned out that the reinstallation disk wouldnt work cos they partition had been corrupted or deleted somehow.
HP turned out to be no help whatsoever and wouldn't supply a disk and wouldn't do a reinstall (not for a reasonable price anyway).

I wonder how many people out there have been in a similar situation or have bought a pc with the software (but no disks, or ones with keys that don't work).
barmypom (6048)
270693 2004-09-09 10:46:00 A logical approach would be for the original poster to provide more details like where he got the PC from including the MS Office in question.

Then the next logical approach would be to look hard for the key. If not found a simple phone call to the retailer would obtain the necessary information.

Where's the eye-rolling smiley?
Pillar (439)
270694 2004-09-09 10:47:00 I was more referring more to comps bought either second hand or from less then honest retailers,in the case of the big brands the original programs are located on a hidden partition if no cd's were supplied.In most cases its also possible to transfer these set-up files to cd.A poor set-up at best but still legal.

But i get a steady stream of computers that need fixing where the owners have been sold a comp loaded with software on no-brand name comps,there is no cd's,no hidden partition,nothing.

Trademe is littered with them,the sellers even going so far as to state "loaded for demonstration purposes"

There are plenty of sharks out there,some of what i see is digusting.
metla (154)
270695 2004-09-09 11:02:00 I used a little program called; RockXP3.exe, to find the keys on my machine to the products that came bundled.It is only 420KB's and is simple to use.

Hook.
Capt.Hook (5586)
270696 2004-09-09 11:05:00 > I was more referring more to comps bought either
> second hand or from less then honest retailers,
Ectect
files to cd . A poor set-up at best but
> still legal .
>
> But i get a steady stream of computers that need
> fixing where the owners have been sold a comp loaded
> with software on no-brand name comps,there is no
> cd's,no hidden partition,nothing .
>
> Trademe is littered with them,the sellers even going
> so far as to state "loaded for demonstration
> purposes"
>

Trademe got into strife with software manufacturers, for allowing blatant pirate software, and comp's loaded with same . They had to change the rules to stay out of court .

Sellers are not allowed by T/?m rules to advertise comps with pirate softy, so they advertise demo's . T/m Knows this breaches their settelment with software manufacturer's .

T/m will let scammers and pirates ripp off kiwis and manufacturers, as long as they are making money .

In the long term T/m is not good for internet selling or the I . T . industry in New Zealand
drb1 (4492)
270697 2004-09-09 11:12:00 > In the long term T/m is not good for internet selling
> or the I.T. industry in New Zealand

Definitely agree with that.
It pays to shop around. One will find good deals from online retailers that compare favourably with prices found on trademe.
If I was after a cheap 2nd hand I'd look locally and want to check everything was legit before handing over money.
barmypom (6048)
270698 2004-09-09 11:28:00 >>In the long term T/m is not good for internet selling or the I.T. industry in New Zealand.
Should Trademe be the software piracy police? I don't think so. People need to be very careful when they buy, say a pc with software already loaded which doesn't include cd's (unless its preloaded and legit). What does get me about Trademe auctions is that people often leave information out, I would sometimes say deliberately so you have to ask them a question.

"let the buyer beware"
Dolby Digital (160)
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