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271969	2004-09-13 09:47:00	Hello guys and girls Probably a stupid question to most of you but as you will soon see I am not computer literate really. I would like any advice you can give on the following scenario. I would like to get jetsream (Probably with Slingshot) as I am with them now.I realiase this will only improve speed by 4 times or so which is fine, the plus is it will free up the phone line, and hopefully my wife can use her laptop at the same time as me for the internet.Firstly will this slow the speed by half, ( 2 computers accessing the internet at the same time)and secondly can she just plug it in to the phone line anywhere in the house or do the 2 computers have to be linked.This would not be possible really so maybe wireless ?.We do not need to have access to eachothers files etc.Any help would be greatly appreciated.If somebody could give me an indication of what I need to buy it would be great.Thanks.	Porper (6154)
271970	2004-09-13 09:54:00	It shouldnt slow u down too much, BUT depending on what plan you get for Jetstream, it'll most probably take what u and your wife do on the net, into account for the data usage if its not an unlimited plan. I dont think she can plug into a spare phonejack for the net. You may also need a router (if it isnt integrated into the ADSL modem you purchased) then still connect hers to yours for her to get access to the net. BUT yup, unless u use wireless cards to connect to each other.	Spacemannz (808)
271971	2004-09-13 10:23:00	Welcome to PF1 Porper. To share an internet connection you will first need to network create a network. You can do this by either setting up a network with a router and switch/hub (most ADSL modems have built in routers and switches/hubs these days) by which they can connect independently of each other or, by using ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) one version of which is available to MS operating systems (ME, win 2000, XP) in which case one computer (generally a PC) hosts the connection and shares it with the other(s) when they are connected. The latter has the disadvantage that the host computer needs to be on for the other(s) to connnect and requires an additional network card (NIC, Lan or ethernet card, all the same basically or a WiFi card if you want to connect wirelessly) to be installed. In both cases the computers will share the bandwidth of the connection, the impact of this will largely depend on whether Telecom has got around to installing some new gadgets in your local exchange, it is not an improvement :( As mentioned, your best bet would be a wired or wireless network using a multi port ADSL router or a combination, eg; laptop connects via WiFi, PC connects via Cat5 or 6 cable (advice, avoid ICS like the plague, stay away from the Telecom connection kit [I'll duck for cover once this is posted ;) ]). All other phone connections in the house have to be filtered in cluding monitored alarms by using filters on each jackpoint (except that used to connect the ADSL or using a splitter to filter all other lines in the house. What OS's (operating systems) are you using, once known we can point you in the right direction and point you in the right direction as to router brands but, at the end of the day if you don't want to get your hands and mind dirty it may pay to get a tech in to set it up, no offence intended and if you want to give it a crack we'll guide you through the necessary steps. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
271972	2004-09-13 10:40:00	Forgot a couple of things. If you hit the FAQ button, top right of this page, within the FAQ's there's a networking FAQ. Be patient, it'll take a while to load. I doen't include connection sharing or Windows XP but there are links to some great resources in there, one of the best being World of Windows Networking (http://www.wown.com/) (wown) which will give you most of what you need plus some light bedtime reading. Along with ICS and those kits, don't use USB to connect to the router. I'll duck back to my hole now. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
271973	2004-09-13 11:22:00	Thanks for all the prompt replies, it has helped alot already. We both have windows XP, my computer is a tower system so isn't moveable, my wifes laptop can be anywhere obviously. It seems I will need to use a wireless system then (from what I gather reading your posts) which is fine.I will have a go myself, I upgrade my home computer so I am a bit in tune with what is in there, just all this new stuff baffles me a bit.I won't have trouble fitting a modem etc, maybe the other stuff could be a problem.If I go for the wireless system, any help, again greatly appreciated, or the wired system if you think it would work for my needs. Thanks .	Porper (6154)
271974	2004-09-13 11:47:00	I don't use XP myself but, by all accounts it's pretty easy to setup for networking, even has a nice Wizard (yuck :p ) although I'm sure there will be a manual (controlable) option in Control Panel > Network & Dialup Connection somewhere (if it's smilar to win2k). Does the PC have a network card, perhaps built in to the motherboard chipset, what's your motherboard? Anyway they're only $15-30 to purchase and some routers may come with one included. In my opinion dont go for a PCI ADSL modem go for an external ethernet router. Dynalink, Linksys are good brands to start your enquiries off with. PCI they can sometimes be less reliable, you will have to use ICS and add another network card or WiFi card to the PC to share with the laptop plus, a PCI card will use more of your PC's resources whereas and external router will use virtually none. Does the laptop have a WiFi chipset (built in, most recent ones will) or card? If not and you can run some cable without knocking walls over ethernet will give you a more consistent and more secure connection in most situations than wireless (you want to set Wifi up so your not broadcasting to the neighbourhood) but, you can also get extenders for the WiFi signal if you have trouble getting a reliable one where the laptop is going to be used most, just that the more WiFi gear you have to buy the more expensive it's going to get (along with WiFi routers being more expensive as well). Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
271975	2004-09-13 11:49:00	Hmm, sorry about the mangled content, if you have any trouble deciphering it just post back. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
271976	2004-09-13 12:52:00	What you want to do is just what I use. If your wife would like to be mobile around the house with the laptop then wireless is the way to go. If you want to use the laptop in just one place and it is easy to get cable to it then cable or wireless will do. I use a Linksys WAG54G 4 port router, access point/ ADSL modem. This type of device does all that is required in the one unit. Be careful some do not come with the ADSL modem and this needs to be purchased separately. I have my desktop wired to the router and wireless to the Laptop via a PC Card. Works fine for me, can share files and printers.	Berryb (654)
271977	2004-09-14 04:39:00	Here are my recommendations to get you going. 1) Buy a WiFi ADSL Router. A quick Google search turned up this one at for $178 (www.dse.co.nz) incl GST. It also has 4 ethernet ports as well as wireless, so you can connect your PC via network cable if you want. 2) Now you need a means to connect you computer and laptop. Everything you need might already be there. Check to see if your laptop has built-in WiFi, or came with a WiFi PCMCIA card. If it doesn't, no problem, you can buy one for about $54 (same place). As for the PC, it is highly likely that it already has a built in network card in the motherboard. If it doesn't, buy one ($16 same place). -------------------- Now that the computer, PC and Laptop are all technically connected, you will have to do some fiddling, read some manuals etc to get it all going. Cheers George BTW, you obvisously don't have to buy at DSE I just used them as an example. [Link fixed. Edited by: admin on Sep 14, 2004 3:43 PM]	george12 (7)
271978	2004-09-14 04:47:00	George, best to use the (url=http://www.site.co.nz)This site(/url) formatting -- with [ and ] instead of ( and )	Biggles (121)
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