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272954 2004-09-17 02:51:00 Wow! Off the topic of an Off-Topic thread - Brilliant :D Spartacus (3313)
272955 2004-09-17 02:51:00 The main reason the word "Axis" is familiar indeed stems from the alliance between Italy, Germany, and Japan.

The alliteration between Allies and Axis (both beginning with A ) made these words easy to say and thus attractive to news media and politicians. Nothing wrong with that. It meant that you immediately knew which side was being talked about.

Words are wonderfully flexible and this use of Axis really gave a new second definition. Thus a political axis is the alignment of states with similar ideology. In that sense George Bush uses the "Axis of Evil" term correctly.

I'm sure Euclid would have been mightily confused ;)
Winston001 (3612)
272956 2004-09-17 03:09:00 Winston,

Excellent Statement.

Quisling

Did that not originate from The actions of a scandinavian leader in that period allso?

I can't recall which one at this point.

D.
drb1 (4492)
272957 2004-09-17 03:21:00 > Quisling
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> Did that not originate from The actions of a
> scandinavian leader in that period allso?
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> I can't recall which one at this point.
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Indeed. Quisling appointed himself leader of Norway after telling the Germans how beneficial it would be to invade that country. He then collaborated with them throughout the war. Believe he was tried and shot afterwards - it's never really worth it, is it??

S
Spartacus (3313)
272958 2004-09-17 03:29:00 Spartacus,

Thank you for the reminder, a fitting end. At least they tried him first.

I have not seen or heard it used as a curse for a long time now, a dying word/term perhaps?

D.
drb1 (4492)
272959 2004-09-17 05:23:00 Quisling - another excellent example a how words change. Vidkun Quisling was the President of Norway under the Nazis from February 1942 until 1945. The real Norwegian government holed up in London. Subsequently he had an appointment with some chaps in a yard and several swiftly moving pieces of lead. After a trial of course.

The word "quisling " became common to refer to anyone who was a traitor or betrayer. I agree Drb1 that it isn't heard much these days.

Interestingly Europe and Britain had strong fascist parties arise in the 1930s. Edward Mosley was the leader of the English lot. Quisling in Norway.

As a counterpoint, communist sympathies took root also, with the most famous example being the Cambridge Five - Philby, McLean, Burgess, and Blunt (a cousin of the Queen) and Cairncross, all of whom spied for Russia.

Communist parties are still strong today in Italy and France. Che lives!!!! :D
Winston001 (3612)
272960 2004-09-17 05:39:00 >>Communist parties are still strong today in Italy and France.

Apoint that never ceases to amaze me.
How much evidence does one need to show that this system is faulty?
Young Tom (5503)
272961 2004-09-17 05:50:00 Well, it's like the old saying; 'one man's poisson is another man's poison' Terry Porritt (14)
272962 2004-09-17 05:53:00 >After a trial of course.

Ah the English language!

I often wonder how many dogs get found guilty at sheepdog trials.
A very trying and vexing question in my mind. :-)
Elephant (599)
272963 2004-09-17 06:25:00 Young tom,

Pure communism as in the Failed Russian model. And pure Capitalism as in the failing American model. Can not work in the long term.

The middle ground with Socially, and Ecologically responsible capitalism. with some form of semi democratic one party state. As per the developing Chinese model, may be the way.

Humans may get to find out, IF they do not make the Planet uninhabitable for themselves, in the not to distant future.

D.
Dianne2 (6160)
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