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| Thread ID: 136574 | 2014-03-17 21:57:00 | Windows 8.1 download problems. | Bryan (147) | Press F1 |
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| 1370499 | 2014-03-18 04:14:00 | Not a name brand. I think I made the error of installing over top of an existing Win7. I will format the drive and start again as soon as I have Win7 back on the other HDD. I am running ESET but WIn8 has installed Windows Defender - a no, no right? Hmmmm an upgrade over an upgrade, ideal case of things that can go wrong. Not saying that is the cause, but personally I dont like upgrades, often underlying corruptions can cause problems. With 8.1 though you dont really have a choice unless you do it the round about way, which you download the 8.1 upgrade as a ISO file, BUT then you have to muck about changing things as the Windows 8 key wont allow you to install 8.1 as a fresh install. Its still doable just a bit of mucking about. Windows 8 8.1 comes with a inbuilt AV, nothing you can do about that, if using Nod32, there mostly isn't a problem, done several with Nod installed and all worked fine. There WAS a problem with Version 6 of Nod32 & windows 8.1, but that was fixed with upgrading Nod to version 7. HINT: if you dont want to use a sign-in Account/ password all the time, make sure W8 is NOT connected to the internet when installing, and select Custom install when its shown ( its not well shown) if doing an upgrade to W8.1 and you currently dont have to sign in, make sure you disconnect the internet when 8.1 requires a reboot to install, right after downloading. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1370500 | 2014-03-18 04:27:00 | I have never done upgrades for myself because of this kind of thing. Clean install is always the best way. | Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1370501 | 2014-03-18 06:08:00 | Hmmmm an upgrade over an upgrade, ideal case of things that can go wrong. Not saying that is the cause, but personally I dont like upgrades, often underlying corruptions can cause problems. With 8.1 though you dont really have a choice unless you do it the round about way, which you download the 8.1 upgrade as a ISO file, BUT then you have to muck about changing things as the Windows 8 key wont allow you to install 8.1 as a fresh install. Its still doable just a bit of mucking about. Windows 8 8.1 comes with a inbuilt AV, nothing you can do about that, if using Nod32, there mostly isn't a problem, done several with Nod installed and all worked fine. There WAS a problem with Version 6 of Nod32 & windows 8.1, but that was fixed with upgrading Nod to version 7. HINT: if you dont want to use a sign-in Account/ password all the time, make sure W8 is NOT connected to the internet when installing, and select Custom install when its shown ( its not well shown) if doing an upgrade to W8.1 and you currently dont have to sign in, make sure you disconnect the internet when 8.1 requires a reboot to install, right after downloading. Hmm. I'd like to hear more about this from you and others. Wainuitech I've had lots of new-user dramas with my own Win 8 + 8.1. Currently I'd like to hear how to anti-virus scan a downloaded file, eg a small movie.... there's no built-in ability to do so far as I can see...? |
Greg (193) | ||
| 1370502 | 2014-03-18 07:38:00 | Currently I'd like to hear how to anti-virus scan a downloaded file, eg a small movie.... there's no built-in ability to do so far as I can see...? Most antivirus software should scan any download as its happening, and warn or stop anything from continuing. Heres an example: 5627 Nod32 has detected the Toolbar as a unwanted program that comes bundled with Ccleaner these days. BUT to scan a file you should be able to right click it - and the option to scan with what ever AV is installed should be there. Never tried it with Windows 8 or 8.1's own Antivirus ( windows defender) if the option is not there try the following ( Note) no idea if it works or not, never tried it, you need to alter the reg: adding-scan-with-windows-defender-to-the-windows-8-context-menu (www.fixedbyvonnie.com) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1370503 | 2014-03-18 08:21:00 | Most antivirus software should scan any download as its happening, and warn or stop anything from continuing. Not sure about downloads but I have had Windows Defender stop files from being copied as they were suspect. |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1370504 | 2014-03-18 21:33:00 | Not sure about downloads but I have had Windows Defender stop files from being copied as they were suspect. Any reasonable AV will scan as its being downloaded. Whats the point if a person downloads something and it activates when complete, and then the AV decides its time to react. Better to stop it in the first place. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1370505 | 2014-03-18 23:34:00 | Any reasonable AV will scan as its being downloaded. Whats the point if a person downloads something and it activates when complete, and then the AV decides its time to react. Better to stop it in the first place. Problem is I haven' been in that scenario :p |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1370506 | 2014-03-19 04:24:00 | OK. I got up the courage and have installed WIN8 on a clean HDD. All has gone well and this evening I will install Win8.1. Thanks WT for the tip re disconnecting the Internet before the final reboot. | Bryan (147) | ||
| 1370507 | 2014-03-19 22:20:00 | Well, all has gone well on a clean install. Win8.1 is up and running. All I have to do now is connect my 2TB HDD that contains Win7. That might be interesting. | Bryan (147) | ||
| 1370508 | 2014-03-19 23:58:00 | Suggestion, while its good and clean, image the drive (8.1) Depending on what imaging software you have or dont have, if you dont have any, one that works rather well with a real install ( meaning NOT like HP's multi partitions) is backupper www.backup-utility.com Install it, make a bootable CD from its options, image the WHOLE DRIVE to a external drive. It will make a image of what ever is installed, so if you only have Windows thats all the size will be. I jump between Backupper and Active@ these days :) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
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