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275151 2004-09-24 08:52:00 Here is what Juha sasy about this in todays Computerworld Fry up:

- Death of UBS?

There is good news for New Zealand broadband customers this week: Telecom will make flat-rate DSL plans with 256, 1Mbit/s and 2Mbit/s download speeds available in exactly a month’s time . I’m grizzling about the low upstream speed – 128-192kbit/s depending on the plan – and the meagre 1-10GB allowance before the connection throttles down to 64kbit/s . Oh, and I don’t think you can get static IP addresses either .

But nevertheless, that’s a good deal better than UBS, and for a similar price . The cheapest 256/128kbit/s plan is $29 . 95 if you put your calls through Telecom, and the 2M/192kbit/s plan is $59 . 95 a month . Add the usual $10 for the ISP, and you’d have to wonder why anyone would bother with USB? Orcon for instance says it’ll charge $49 . 95 - $59 . 95 for its UBS plans, and the recently released CallPlus Jetbuster Express Unlimited Flat Rate plan is $59 . 95 . Note that there is no $100 churn fee slapped on customers switching providers, unlike UBS .

We’ve talked to ISPs about the new plans, and in brief, they say it means UBS has been a big waste of everyone’s time and money . Unfortunately, it’s impossible to disagree with that conclusion .

- Faster flat-rate Telecom DSL plans launched ( . idg . co . nz/news . nsf/A0DFA2A549E823C0CC256D9600196ABD/7CB391F4784DAC5CCC256F190014B86D" target="_blank">www . idg . co . nz)

- Commission monitoring broadband uptake ( . co . nz/news . nsf/UNID/EE88029892A0C775CC256F17001195BF" target="_blank">computerworld . co . nz)
stu120404 (268)
275152 2004-09-24 09:09:00 Anyone read the specs for UBS? Says they are allowed to have a certain amount of packet loss for the connection. You really have to read the fine print which isn't publicly available.

So could be 2mbit, 10Gb and up to 50% packet loss :O
alphazulusixeightniner (185)
275153 2004-09-24 09:09:00 Well correct me if I'm wrong but . . . I might be missing something here, it doesn't look like these new plans offer any sort of saving .

If I've read the release right I'm going to be paying $20 more for the same amount of data at a higher speed . . . . how is that supposed to be better?

Still looks like we're getting ripped off .

Now if they had said the plans were uncapped or even had a 15GB or 20GB limit then I wouldn't have such a big problem forking out the extra $20 but even then I'd still have a think about whether it's worth it .

If you ask me it's just looks like the New Zealand public is getting the same CORPORATE SHAFTING from TELESCUM . . . they have just figured out a way to make even more money off us!!!!

If I'm being overly unreasonable, ungrateful or otherwise insensitive to TELESCUM's obvious scheme to milk us for every dime we've got . . . while keeping their services down to what can only be termed sub par (on world standards right now) let me know . . . .

I really don't think these plans are any better than the ones they currently have .

cheers

chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
275154 2004-09-24 09:57:00 > Well correct me if I'm wrong but... I might be
> missing something here, it doesn't look like these
> new plans offer any sort of saving.
>
> If I've read the release right I'm going to be paying
> $20 more for the same amount of data at a higher
> speed.... how is that supposed to be better?
>
> Still looks like we're getting ripped off.
>
> Now if they had said the plans were uncapped or even
> had a 15GB or 20GB limit then I wouldn't have such a
> big problem forking out the extra $20 but even then
> I'd still have a think about whether it's worth it.
>
> If you ask me it's just looks like the New Zealand
> public is getting the same CORPORATE SHAFTING
> from TELESCUM... they have just figured out a
> way to make even more money off us!!!!
>
> If I'm being overly unreasonable, ungrateful or
> otherwise insensitive to TELESCUM's obvious
> scheme to milk us for every dime we've got... while
> keeping their services down to what can only be
> termed sub par (on world standards right now) let me
> know....
>
> I really don't think these plans are any better than
> the ones they currently have.

I agree. It's good for the small percentage of the population who are high on downloads, etc. But for most of us, I doubt we get past 2/3ish GB. No way I'm forking out $20 extra just to download faster, because we usually download 1.5-1.8Gb anyway!

Its just another excuse to get people's money.
~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
275155 2004-09-24 10:15:00 > > Telecom 10Gb = <5Gb in reality
>
> why do you say that alphazulusixeightniner?
>

For god's sake dont ask him that!!!!


To late

Sigh
Shaun Minfie (2961)
275156 2004-09-24 11:32:00 > I really don't think these plans are any better than
> the ones they currently have.

I have to disagree with you there IMO the plans we have at the moment are bad!

The other day Thanks to VNC & with a mate over in the USA I download Apache/php (as he wanted me to help him set-up Apache/php on his win box) on his 1.2m connection & it took less then 5 min’s to download, if I did the same download on my 256 K connection it would take about 10 mins aprox!

Ok, I have to agree with you there about the data caps with this new plan & what we have are not that good but at lest we got 10GB!

Even if NZ got 512/256 I would think any one would be happy ( I would be very happy if we even got 256/256! Not 256/128 :()

That’s my 5 cents
stu120404 (268)
275157 2004-09-24 11:36:00 Telescum are at it again.
I won't be signing up to their measly plans, the swines.
Their data caps are pathetic!

TELECON R U LISTENING TO US?

For God's sake stop ripping us off - maybe then we'll stop slagging you off. When you're monopoly falls apart, don't be surprised when customers desert you.

I'm sticking with Orcon.
barmypom (6048)
275158 2004-09-24 13:47:00 Bloddy telecom ehyy

They are a bunch of money sucking pigs!
And always trying to squash others who try to offer better deals to us .

Even if they drop their prices by $20 for 250 000 cust signed up to Jetstream it a is mere $5million less for their profit annually .

I am sure Theresa can give 2 . 5million from her fat pay and rest can come off the mammoth $800 mill profit they seem to be making every year .

Arrhhh i am so sure no company in nz is more hated than Telecom and the greedy pigs heading the empire .
neptune (3819)
275159 2004-09-24 20:16:00 Telecom are a greedy fat cat corporation.

The best way to shaft them is not to sign up for any of their fourth world offerings.

They also have the cheek/gall to want to charge me $ 10 more per month as I am on Telstra Cklear for my phone calls !

For your info Telecom and to remind the rest of you.

Telstra Clear has initaited EVERY single deal and offer that Telexcom sometimes match.

$4 calls to Aussie etc etc etc
Discount to schools
Friends/regular caller type plans

And there are and have been many others.

Regards

Digby
Digby (677)
275160 2004-09-24 22:29:00 > I am sure Theresa can give 2.5million from her fat
> pay and rest can come off the mammoth $800 mill
> profit they seem to be making every year.


Ahh. Poor Theresa. Give her a break. She needs the money to help pay for a hairdresser. I'm sure she goes to the same one as Helen Clark.
barmypom (6048)
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