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275471 2004-09-25 02:40:00 I have to agree with "broom" (aka Metla, in english ) on this as well. :D

If you look at the Hyena power supplies, their power rating is based on the primary, or mains, side of the power supply. Others are on what the secondary, or output side. As a power supply does not have perfect power transfer, losses have to be taken away from the Hyena's rating.
At best, 10% , at worst , 40% is lost within the power supply. So Normally, take 20%, away from 300Watts, and you end up with 240Watts in real terms.

The next most unreliable component is the RAM. So if you can burn a bootable CD with memtest86 (http://www.memtest86.com/) on it. It would be your first easy check.
Pheonix (280)
275472 2004-09-25 02:44:00 goldmem is a very good memory tester it has failed memory that goldmem has past as ok on several occassion in my experance.
if you decide to use it you will need rewrite to unpack and make the bootable floopy as it makes a bootable linux floppy
beama (111)
275473 2004-09-25 02:45:00 > goldmem is a very good memory tester it has failed
> memory that goldmem has past

passed *
beama (111)
275474 2004-09-25 02:50:00 ******edit********
> goldmem is a very good memory tester, it has failed
> memory that memtest86 has passed as ok on several
> occassion in my experance.
> if you decide to use it you will need rewrite to
> unpack and make the bootable floppy as it makes a
> bootable linux floppy
******end edit*******
not a good day sorry about this folks
beama (111)
275475 2004-09-25 03:01:00 > Taken off casing to help cool pc down.

It's not going to cool your components by taking the case panels off, because you'll be spoiling the airflow. If you really want to cool it down though, just take off one panel and get a desk fan to blow into it.
Greg S (201)
275476 2004-09-25 03:20:00 thanks so much dudes, i used 'memtest MFC application v1.001
it downloaded instantly and opened the .exe
It says
Welcom, New memTest User
read the manual blah blah blah
quit every program
click ok and start testing
it tested the memory with heaps of 'cycles' i stopped it at 300%
(no idea why it didnt' stop at 100%)
no errors were found in the process, so im going to try the other memory testers out there, thanks for the advice.

Now i just have to get quotes from 2 different computer stores on the north shore, and then one from E-one computers in manukau, my dad says he'll take me to one and go halves on the repair and i have to pay for the graphics card. Does anybody know any good local shops on northshore? I only know 'Simply computers' but they're rip offs.
Nighthawk (5846)
275477 2004-09-25 03:29:00 ok i got memtest86
when opening the install dos files
it says select the drive to install to (i want to try a CD)
unfortunately i dont have any blank CDs
can i use a cd with some other stuff on it already?
Nighthawk (5846)
275478 2004-09-25 04:03:00 How far out of warranty is it James? You are entitled to expect normal life expectancy on components so if something fails prematurely, it doesn't matter that the warranty has expired, the shop still has to fix it. The Consumer Guarantees Act provides for that. Let us know the age and I'll find some references for you.

BTW, I don't think temperature is the problem if it fails at switch-on, it takes 20-30 minutes to work up to full temp for general components, though your CPU & GPU can get hot much faster than that if you are working them hard.

My money is on the PSU for part of your problems, mainly the start-up issues, but some of the others may have deeper causes.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
275479 2004-09-25 22:06:00 I bought my computer customised from E-one computers
(www.e-one.co.nz)
on August 2003
so its just over a year old
im going to check out a place in birkenhead but if u say eone still would have to fix it then ill probably go there
just wondering.. is it easy to get a motherboard battery replacement?
Nighthawk (5846)
275480 2004-09-25 22:47:00 > just wondering.. is it easy to get a motherboard
> battery replacement?

You can get the CMOS battery (motherboard battery) from supermarkets or anywhere else that has a good range of battery types and should only cost a couple of dollars. It is a CR2032 type battery, but check out the markings on your current one. The battery is about 10 mm in diameter and is flat. It should just pop out of the clip holding it in.
Jen C (20)
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