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Thread ID: 49766	2004-09-29 23:32:00	Virus in 1st Page on PCW CD - False positive	Biggles (121)	Press F1

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276940	2004-10-06 10:58:00	I'm am quite sure IDG would not like their reputation in the computing world to be tainted and would take all reasonable steps to protect their customers. Beside that I believe its your responsibility to protect your machine. I know I don't trust anything that comes into my computer, it all gets scanned.	beama (111)
276941	2004-10-06 21:53:00	Now about the virii jumping out of the pages of PCW - yeah those green little monsters - oops should drink less coffee. PCW is the greatest. Who cares about this little false positive - haven't the people heard about Google? Bruce, with or without all the nasties you guys are doing a great job. Sarel	sarel (2490)
276942	2004-10-24 07:56:00	>>Compressed - Not encrypted.... BIG difference. >I know the difference. Do you understand what I am saying? Many installer programs encrypt the data to stop it being altered. Posted by joanc on 30/09/04 21:34 Hmm... then why can I right-click-and-drag 99.999% of .exe installation files to a folder/Explorer Window, select "Extract Here" or "Extract to Here" from the pop-up menu, and have the complete contents of the installation file "extracted" to the folder??? (provided a compression program such as WinZip or UltimateZip is installed) Wouldn't the program stop and ask for a password? >It only takes minutes to install a program... Posted by Rob99 on 01/10/04, 08:47 Yes, but there was 70/80 programs on the disk in mid 2003, and even now there is around 40 programs on the disk. Lets see... 70x4=280mins (4hrs 20mins) plus the time to do a full system scan (around 5hrs on a 120GB drive with Windows XP SP2 using AVG Antivirus) equals almost 12hrs. You may ague back that it is unessential to do a full system scan, just scan the "C:\Program Files" folder. Well, installation scatters files all over the place, so it is practical to do a full system scan. >... in any case most of the programs are repeated each month so would not have to be retested if the same files are used. Posted by Rob99 on 01/10/04, 08:47 There are new versions of "regulars" coming out, and it would be impractical to say WinZip 9.0 is virus free because WinZip 1.0 was virus free.	MarkKB (6221)
276943	2004-10-24 08:11:00	>>Compressed - Not encrypted . . . . BIG difference . >I know the difference . Do you understand what I am saying? Many installer programs encrypt the data to stop it being altered . Posted by joanc on 30/09/04 21:34 Hmm . . . then why can I right-click-and-drag 99 . 999% of . exe installation files to a folder/Explorer Window, select "Extract Here" or "Extract to Here" from the pop-up menu, and have the complete contents of the installation file "extracted" to the folder??? (provided a compression program such as WinZip or UltimateZip is installed) Wouldn't the program stop and ask for a password? >It only takes minutes to install a program . . . Posted by Rob99 on 01/10/04, 08:47 Yes, but there was 70/80 programs on the disk in mid 2003, and even now there is around 40 programs on the disk . Lets see . . . 70x4mins=280mins (4hrs 20mins) plus the time to do a full system scan (around 5hrs on a 120GB drive with Windows XP SP2 using AVG Antivirus) equals almost 12hrs . You may ague back that it is unessential to do a full system scan, just scan the "C:\Program Files" folder . Well, installation scatters files all over the place, so it is practical to do a full system scan . > . . . and in any case most of the programs are repeated each month so would not have to be retested if the same files are used . Posted by Rob99 on 01/10/04, 08:47 There are new versions of programs coming out all the time, so you can't say WinZip 9 . 0 is virus-free just because WinZip 1 . 0 was virus-free . I know, too big a time differance, but you get it . Here's a better statement: You can't say WinZip 9 . 0 is virus-free just because WinZip 8 . 0 was virus-free .	MarkKB (6221)
276944	2004-10-24 23:04:00	joanc It's a false positive. Get over it. If you're asking why they don't install every program to test it out, why don't you try? You install every bit of software from the new CDs to try and find viruses. Then maybe you'll learn why the guys at PCworld don't do it.	Megaman (344)
276945	2004-10-25 10:35:00	>>...and in any case most of the programs are repeated each month so would not have to be retested if the same files are used. Posted by Rob99 on 01/10/04, 08:47 >There are new versions of programs coming out all the time, so you can't say WinZip 9.0 is virus-free just because WinZip 1.0 was virus-free. I know, too big a time differance, but you get it. Here's a better statement: You can't say WinZip 9.0 is virus-free just because WinZip 8.0 was virus-free. By repeated I ment same file used, not updated, not new version. SAME FILE!! >Lets see... 70x4mins=280mins (4hrs 20mins) plus the time to do a full system scan (around 5hrs on a 120GB drive with Windows XP SP2 using AVG Antivirus) equals almost 12hrs. OK four and a bit hours to install every thing, seems not to bad so far. Why would you use and scan a full 120GB drive. If your computer takes that long to scan you have other problems or a completly full 120GB HD.	Rob99 (151)
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