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| Thread ID: 49840 | 2004-10-02 11:51:00 | DVD plug in for MP10 available here | Alan Cottrell (624) | Press F1 |
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| 277605 | 2004-10-03 06:16:00 | I just squinted at the moon. | metla (154) | ||
| 277606 | 2004-10-03 06:37:00 | > I just squinted at the moon. And Allans answer to the "have we/i all ready paid question" Two excellent positive answers. D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 277607 | 2004-10-03 07:57:00 | > Metla, > > You missed the point, > > MPEG LA have the authorisation from the various MPEG > codec writers to apply the necessary patents and > collect royalties as they deem fit. > > They are the ones who are saying that Royalties will > not necessarily be collected if you are a low volume > user of the MPEG involved, > > So how do you glean from that information taken from > their website, that the use of the MPEG codec is > obviously illegal. > > AC So,in a nutshell,your (again) saying that getting copyrighted code that has been tampered with and redistributed (and the site it comes from even acknologedes its illegal) for the sole purpose of getting around a lisencing system is legal because the governing body dosn't waste their time hunting down every 2 bit hack? Whoa,nice logic,I guess its legal to pirate Winxp because MS haven't hunted down and spanked all those Chinese villagers. I have yet to see one single sentence that gives any creedence to the notion that this is legal,eveything so far states its not. Ever wondered why no media player or OS has native DVD suport?,If it was kosher for it to be freely available then it would be everywhere. |
metla (154) | ||
| 277608 | 2004-10-03 08:42:00 | Metla, I thought this was coming to a happy ending. If alan is correct only those who have a DVD R/RW that came with out playing software are in a grey area. As to the Player's O/S with out support, Sold/distributed in real volume so worth persuing for Revenue by Lisencee, could be a partial answer. DVD format, laser type, layer number, diameter, and several other issues make this area extremely fluid, even by PC Tech advance standards, also adding uncertanties. M/s is trying to bully the recording industry major players into accepeting its C/D audio security format for Longhorn (This could be a smoke screen so that they can say "We gave you an option" when longhorn does not protect recordings as wished). Are they about to try somethig simular with DVD changing all the rules yet again? A third group of vairables. D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 277609 | 2004-10-03 08:47:00 | a happy ending?,make a convincing argument and ill be happy to agree,so far nobody has bought anything to the table that even makes me doubt its ileagal.Alan is trying to make the facts fit in with his opinion. Not that im unhappy in the slightest,i just don't agree. |
metla (154) | ||
| 277610 | 2004-10-03 09:03:00 | Metla, Do you agree, that only those who do not have a "Legall" (in your opinion) copy of the codex (as only 1 instance per machine required) are the only ones with a Potential problem if they use "VLC"? D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 277611 | 2004-10-03 09:14:00 | If you already have the real deal what would the point be in getting a hacked version? | metla (154) | ||
| 277612 | 2004-10-03 09:46:00 | Metla, The Codec supplied with Videolan is the same MPEG codec supplied with any other DVD software I T I S N O T H A C K E D O R A L T E R E D I N A N Y WAY just included as part of the package . I will not go back over the ground already covered, other than to say if you cannot believe the distributors of the MPEG's own patent royalty payment guideline, there is little chance of me convincing you . The videolan warning about the legality of including the codec, is specific to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and as already stated applies mainly to the USA and would in any case not apply if the distributor of the Codec is happy for individual users to use it Royalty free . These are facts, taken from specific sites owned by the companies concerned (Videolan "the Player" and MPEG LA the copyright manager for the Codec concerned) So people can make up their own minds, do a google if they wish (try videolan + illegal codecs) see what you find . This is all I have to say on the matter . Regards AC |
Alan Cottrell (624) | ||
| 277613 | 2004-10-03 09:55:00 | Yep yep yep,illegaly packaged and distributed software to get around the lisencing system and paying royalties,You have convinced me completly. Which is of course why DVD plugins are available no strings attached all over the internet. For gods sake man,just because they choose to distribute it,and you choose to download it does not make the transaction legit.Nor does the fact the governing body don't choose to follow it up,Why would they chase crumbs from bums when they are being fed huge sums of money from those that do their business through legitimate channels? |
metla (154) | ||
| 277614 | 2004-10-03 09:55:00 | Metla, Please excuse failure to fully explain. Multi boot, Multi operating system. WIn + Nix. Win has Legal codex = machine is codex legal (as only 1 licence instance per machine/player required) DVD does not have nix player Software. Or DVD has Legall playerware for Win but is installed on Nix sys. Codex Licence paid for with Player purchase so entitlment to use Codex in machine exists. D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
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