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Thread ID: 49868	2004-10-03 09:19:00	Windows licence jargon	Randolf (75)	Press F1

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277901	2004-10-04 03:28:00	>>My own ethical position which may or may not be strictly legal is that if you buy a computer with a license stuck to it (ie at some time someone has paid for it), and you procure a genuine CD without a license ( ie also paid for at some time), (and I know you only 'lease' the right to use the software), then you can mate these two things together. My "ethical" position is damn the cd,no need to buy a copy,the cd itself without a serial is worthless,all the value is in the serial key.Just borrow a copy of 98 and use a legit key and its all hunky dory.....	metla (154)
277902	2004-10-04 03:40:00	Metla, I am puzzeled, you dont have an issue with moving M/S OEM licence # betwen machines or moving OEM licence between more than 2 owners? Neither really do I, but Technically this is naughty. And after 2 Owners Technically the Licence is void even if it is in the same Machine. But you are/seem very grumpy about "VLC" and the codex. Is this not a little inconsistent? D.	drb1 (4492)
277903	2004-10-04 04:01:00	> Metla, > > I am puzzeled, you dont have an issue with moving M/S > OEM licence # betwen machines or moving OEM licence > between more than 2 owners? > > Neither really do I, but Technically this is naughty. > And after 2 Owners Technically the Licence is void > even if it is in the same Machine. > > But you are/seem very grumpy about "VLC" and the > codex. > > Is this not a little inconsistent? > > D. Nope,I don't presume to think that its any of my business what anyone chooses to do, As far as VLC is concerned if it was me i would do whatever i felt like in order to get DVD playback and damn the lisence,The argument was over wether it was legal or not. I believe in calling a spade a spade is all.	metla (154)
277904	2004-10-04 04:23:00	I think the important thing is that if you are selling a computer with software, then you should ensure that the software is legal, after all the person you are selling to may be from the BSA :D From experience over many years, much of what is sold via adverts does not have legal software. I am also aware that many people buying computers from these ads, dont care whether the software is legal or not, an odd attitude to say the least.	Terry Porritt (14)
277905	2004-10-04 04:44:00	They start to care when it breaks and the person doing the repair tells them they need to shell out for a real version of XP to get it up and going.	metla (154)
277906	2004-10-04 05:49:00	I wouldn't tell somebody that. If they choose to use illegal software that is their decision. I ensure that I provide legal software, but it is not my decision what other people decide. If I noticed they had an illegal version, ie. recognized the product key, I would not take notice. Different story if they're trying to install SP2 on the "devils own" FCKGW key. I had a customer come in with that problem once, and I had to tell them to buy a legal version. They came back a week later to have a modem installed using a different corporate edition that did work with SP2, but hey - you can't save everybody. Maybe if MS lowered prices a bit...	george12 (7)
277907	2004-10-04 05:52:00	Arent you legally required to tell Micrsoft that someone you served had an illegal key? If you dont i thought they could take away your liscense to sell microsoft products? I could be wrong but thats the story ive been told.	Pete O'Neil (250)
277908	2004-10-04 06:14:00	peter, There can be no legall requirment to inform to a supplier, But said supplier, has the right to be very unplesant if you use legit tools and parts to repair pirates. In the Home user area this is not really a problem. with corporate this is a big issue most corporate licenced service providers will not service unlicenced or duplicate software users. Corporate has different rules and M/S are Much more likley to enforce as most corporate servicers are also Licensed OEM installer suppliers. D.	drb1 (4492)
277909	2004-10-04 06:41:00	> They start to care when it breaks and the person > doing the repair tells them they need to shell out > for a real version of XP to get it up and going. This isn't a bad thread in my humble opinion. You repair computers as do I. You presumably will have access to that persons' hard drive unless of course you are replacing due to the fact the hard drive or controller is dead. Even then a hard drive can be revived with enough dollars. If you find pornographic images on the customers hard drive would you feel obliged to report this to the relevant authority? I had this once with a persons computer. This was not children involved. Do I tell his wife? If you find obviously pirated versions of software is that the same? If you find a discussion on making a bomb in an Email would you report it? Just a question here and I have no idea how various computer repairers should react to finding something which is against what they believe on a customers hard drive. Or for that matter being presented with certain CDs or floppies for a re-install. Before Metla says anything I hasten to add that I am not accusing Metla of being anything other than ethical. Don't want to start another flame war even if it might entertain others here.	Elephant (599)
277910	2004-10-04 06:52:00	Ele, Genuine: Terriosts, Pedofiles, and Malwear writers, are Societys Enemy. Apart from that the inf in the unit is not your business and protected by the privacy act. You really should not look at any of it. Flip side If an owner leaves something incriminating on a unit, and the service person supplys the inf to the Authorities. The owner deservers these problems because they were untidy. New Zealand has become an informant society. Informers should consider "really" bad people will not take their behaviour well, and really bad people will most probably do something vindictive. D.	drb1 (4492)
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