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| Thread ID: 49972 | 2004-10-06 04:31:00 | Urgent! 1.8A P4 or 2.4 Celeron D? | george12 (7) | Press F1 |
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| 278607 | 2004-10-06 04:31:00 | OK, I need to make this choice very quickly: Celeron D 2.4Ghz FSB 533 256KB Cache (New from supplier) - $120 -- OR -- Pentium 4 1.8A GHz Northwood (Trademe) - $145 Which do I get? I will be doing: MPEG encoding Video Intensive applications (3D, not games) Heavy multitasking (Macromedia Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Access 2000, 4 IE's, possible others running simultaneously Want to be able to overclock a bit without extra cooling (eg. 200mhz extra or so) |
george12 (7) | ||
| 278608 | 2004-10-06 04:42:00 | Pentium 4 1.8A GHz Northwood (Trademe) - $145 | 45South (4769) | ||
| 278609 | 2004-10-06 04:45:00 | I wouldnt bother with anything thats a Celeron. If u want to do a lot of things at the same time, I would get an Hyperthreading CPU. Some video applications will take advantage of HT CPU's, and make things faster. Altho, neither of the ones u mention, will do HT unless u get the mobo which supports HT, and a 533 @ 3ghz or 800 fsb @ 2.4 + CPU. |
Spacemannz (808) | ||
| 278610 | 2004-10-06 04:46:00 | Get the 1.8GHz with a good motherboard that puppy should easily do 2.4GHz+. Even at stock it should be better than the 2.4GHz Cellery. Do a google for 1.8A + overclocking and you'll soon see what they were capable of. | Pete O'Neil (250) | ||
| 278611 | 2004-10-06 05:02:00 | The benchmarks I've seen (4) seem to show the Celeron as outperforming a 1.8A P4. The 1.8 seems to overclock to about 2.5Ghz Max. But the Celeron goes up to 3.55 stable according to sites I have seen. I would settle for 2.8 or so, but it is very promising. The celeron also has a higher FSB, and is cheaper. Despite all your reccomendations I think I will go for the Celeron. George |
george12 (7) | ||
| 278612 | 2004-10-06 05:10:00 | Celerons have always been cheap coz they lack cache than normal P4's thats why. | Spacemannz (808) | ||
| 278613 | 2004-10-06 05:56:00 | I'd go for the 1.8 purely on the basis that virtually any board will accept it and its overclocking ability. The celeron d on the other hand while a stunningly good overclocker and nowhere near as feeble as the original celerons can be more difficult to find a decent mobo at an affordable price that will run it without a bios flash. There are some motherboards that are listed on the asus and gigabyte sites that show they are compatible with 2.8 celeron D's but have question marks with the 2.4 and 2.6 which doesn't inspire confidence. One shop told me of experiences with some msi boards after flashing them which would not accept service pack 2. Why I don't know. I used to love my 1.6 northwood Overclocked to 2.2 without breaking a sweat. |
the highlander (245) | ||
| 278614 | 2004-10-06 05:58:00 | > The benchmarks I've seen (4) seem to show the Celeron > as outperforming a 1.8A P4. OK > The 1.8 seems to overclock to about 2.5Ghz Max. But > the Celeron goes up to 3.55 stable according to sites > I have seen. OK > I would settle for 2.8 or so, but it is very > promising. OK > The celeron also has a higher FSB, and is cheaper. OK > Despite all your reccomendations I think I will go > for the Celeron. OK Now I have agreed with you but one wonders why you have asked the question on this forum when you have checked other places. The Celeron MAY overclock but always remember that overclocking is not normally a good idea unless you are prepared to have part or all of your system fail at some stage. If you can afford to replace system components as they fail then good luck. I have tried overclocking on older computers I had sitting around but for around possibly a 15 - 20% speed increase for the CPU why bother? Note that your RAM and video card may also be affected by the speed increase. Overclock if you want. It's your money. I take it that your motherboard will support either CPU. |
Elephant (599) | ||
| 278615 | 2004-10-06 06:29:00 | Just as a matter of interest what mobo are you putting your Celeron D into. I wouldn't mind playing around with one of these suckers but haven't come across a decent board yet that doesn't need flashing to run one. |
the highlander (245) | ||
| 278616 | 2004-10-06 07:22:00 | > The benchmarks I've seen (4) seem to show the Celeron > as outperforming a 1.8A P4. > > The 1.8 seems to overclock to about 2.5Ghz Max. But > the Celeron goes up to 3.55 stable according to sites > I have seen. > > I would settle for 2.8 or so, but it is very > promising. > > The celeron also has a higher FSB, and is cheaper. > > Despite all your reccomendations I think I will go > for the Celeron. > > George I know for a fact that its not that easy to get the Celeron up to 3.55GHz, as ive tryed. So far ive used a DFI LanParty PRO875, DFI LanParty 865PE, Albatron PX865PE Pro (V2.0), and a Asus P4P800-E Deluxe. You need some pretty hefty voltage to get it fully stable to the point that you wouldnt want to run these voltage for every day to day usage. Getting 2.8GHz out of a 2.4GHz Cellery D should be a walk in the park, but it wont be overally difficult to get 2.4GHz out of the P4 either. At the same speed the P4 should be noticable faster due to the extra lvl2 cache. Talking to local overclockers i know many had there 1.8A's at 2.5GHz easily, taking into account when they were doing this they didnt have the quality chipset we have today. A 1.8A and a 865/875 chipset would make an awsome overclocker. At stock the Celeron might have a higher FSB but thats not a big deal as overclocking soon fixes that. One benefit the P4 has over the Cellery is the extra 256k of Lvl2 cache. I know id rather have the extra lvl2 cache over the FSB as the FSB can easily be increased whereas cache cant be. Care to provide any link to sites that directly compare the P4 1.8A and the Celeron D 2.4? The 1.8 is such an old chip where as the cellery D is very new, i would have thought that review sites wouldn't bother comparing the to. |
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