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Thread ID: 135101	2013-09-24 22:10:00	America's Cup	Lurking (218)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1354327	2013-09-27 23:13:00	Are the two hands to hold it up, or hold it down Lurks? Surely as a flopper it must be the former.!	Cicero (40)
1354328	2013-09-28 08:06:00	Surely as a flopper it must be the former.! The old saying was "am I getting stronger" it takes two hands to hold it up. Lurking.	Lurking (218)
1354329	2013-09-28 13:35:00	We got beaten by the better team. Plus oracle had to win 11 races not 9. Exactly. And its not as if TNZ won eight straight races, Oracle beat our lads a couple of times before fine tuning their boat to be faster. I think you need billions as apposed to millions to run this show. It looks that way but it is possible to make the cost lower. Apparently the yachts are only 20% of the bill, most of the money goes on crews and buildings etc. Larry Ellison funded most of this whole contest himself which meant paying the San Francisco Harbour authorities, the US Coastguard, the Referees, and the Jury. Plus believe it or not he paid $2 million to one of the TV networks to televise the races. Ever heard of a sport ever having to buy into a TV network?? Some think the Americas Cup is all about making money in the sense that those in control makes millions out of sponsership, tv rights, betting, etc but in fact as any yachtie knows, a boat is a hole in the water into which you pour money. I give full credit to Larry Ellison for creating a Formula One event in sailing which otherwise is about as exciting as watching the grass grow. You have to admit it has been a spectacle out of science fiction and utterly gripping.	Winston001 (3612)
1354330	2013-09-28 13:50:00	As for future challenges, on the strength of these races, yes I think the government should support it. NZ rather surprisingly for a small nation has been challenging the Americas Cup since Australia won it in 1982. We have won the challenger series numerous times and what's more, won and held the Americas Cup from 1995 to 2003. We are not minor players. As for the technology arguments, this type of racing is different to normal yachting. Usually the boats are the same and it is a test of sailing skill plus minor tweaking. However the Americas Cup is a test of the best yacht you can build within the physical constraints. In this sense it is much more like Formula One car racing: every car is different but there are rules you can't exceed. Round the World yachts are quite different from each other and nobody cares about that. The Boeing tech is not computerised but the information it feeds back on foil angles is faster than a human can calculate by eye. TNZ knew about it before the race and Oracle didn't initially use it but desperation provides inspiration. Its possibly better we didn't win, cheaper for Auckland anyway.	Winston001 (3612)
1354331	2013-09-28 16:10:00	You have to admit it has been a spectacle out of science fiction and utterly gripping. +1 :thumbs:	Greg (193)
1354332	2013-09-28 19:28:00	I hate soccer. I'd rather see the money wasted on this bullshit spent on promoting soccer at a grass roots level. Dicks. So that's what soccer is for :- rooting the grass. ;) (I always thought it was a consolation game for those who could not qualify for flower arranging.)	R2x1 (4628)
1354333	2013-09-28 20:19:00	So that's what soccer is for :- rooting the grass. ;) (I always thought it was a consolation game for those who could not qualify for flower arranging.) Correction Football is for those not dumb enough to play rugby, where as sailing is for the rich or those with natural talent and brains	gary67 (56)
1354334	2013-09-28 20:25:00	So that's what soccer is for :- rooting the grass. ;) Very clever. :lol: :lol: :lol:	FoxyMX (5)
1354335	2013-09-28 21:31:00	It was mentioned on 7days on Friday night if emirates sponsoring TNZ is a good idea, having a wing sticking out of the sea with your airline name all over it	plod (107)
1354336	2013-10-02 06:06:00	As much as I want ETNZ to win, think of what NZ has already done: All the broadcast technology, is mostly NZ. Virtual Eye broadcast graphics, NZ Luna Rosa, designed and built here. ETNZ design, built and crewed by NZ. Oracle, mostly built here, run by Russell Crowe. American Team, skippered by an Aussie, with tactician a British Olympic Gold medalist - 3 other Aussies in the crew plus 5 other foreign nationalities in the Team USA crew, plus 1 token American- American money won, America didn't win the sailing because apart from a token yank it was a 91% non- American crew. "The relationship between Professionalism, Sponsorship and Sport, is the same as that between Prostitution and True Love, but with one difference, Prostitution is more honest because it doesn't pretend to be anything that it isn't." From an address to the RORC in 1979 by Gary Mull, US Yacht Designer and former Technical Secretary of the IOR Committee.	KenESmith (6287)
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