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| Thread ID: 135001 | 2013-09-12 10:31:00 | Pathetic New Zealand Farmers! | mzee (3324) | PC World Chat |
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| 1353392 | 2013-09-13 07:57:00 | Keeping the milk cold is a problem that requires significant energy. Hosing down the sh!+ all through the cowshed afterwards also requires a fair bit of juice to power the pumps. Sadly, this is at the same time you most want your refrigeration being powered instead. Not many installations remain compatible with just running a drive belt off the old model T parked out the back. Times have changed. Maybe they should be running generators off all the methane the effluent produces and become self sufficient. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1353393 | 2013-09-13 21:16:00 | I can tell you that chicken farmers have generators, it's part of the deal. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1353394 | 2013-09-13 23:19:00 | Used to spend all my holidays on my uncle's dairy farm in the Waikato. Lots of rain and green grass there. Ideal for cows. Sheep like hilly/rolling country, not as much grass - too wet and they get foot rot. Flat country best for cropping, wheat barley etc. Asked a farmer why they didn't plant some shade trees in the paddocks once. He said the grass don't grow in the shade, and grass = milk. Money rules these days. Can't say I like the life of a cow nowadays (Mooo). Strip farming looks b...awful. Look around the Taupo to Rotorua area. Fancy gateways, bare paddocks and electric fences. No trees! Not an expert, just my thoughts Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1353395 | 2013-09-13 23:28:00 | I really think that sometimes if you have not walked in those peoples shoes you have no idea how hard or easy that life is............. Life is different for every body, some live theirs well others dont....... so maybe some people should give others some slack, because really nobodys life is perfect. I grew up on a hill farm. 67kms to the dairy for milk....lol we were sheep and beef farmers, we diversified into pigs, deer and trees to try keep afloat........ we diversified to alternative water run power for when we lost normal power........but the maintenance levels on that was constant, it needed an awful lot of water to run the sawmill or the woolshed, till a flood took the whole thing away......... concrete block shed and all. :( just before that my dad tried his hand at wind power............ solar panels were really big back then. so polythene pipes with water being heated helped heat the swimming pool, and excess power in summer also went into the pool those farmers probably complain about how easy the city slickers life is....... so maybe if we cant say something nice, we just think before we do say something, cos im sure these people would be there for those in need....... most farmers are generous and helpful types........ Have a nice day and this is not aimed at anyone, i just think some attitudes round here are a bit fierce, living happily, kindly and helpful is a great way to be. |
beetle (243) | ||
| 1353396 | 2013-09-13 23:45:00 | I really think that sometimes if you have not walked in those peoples shoes you have no idea how hard or easy that life is............. Life is different for every body, some live theirs well others dont....... so maybe some people should give others some slack, because really nobodys life is perfect. I grew up on a hill farm. 67kms to the dairy for milk....lol we were sheep and beef farmers, we diversified into pigs, deer and trees to try keep afloat........ we diversified to alternative water run power for when we lost normal power........but the maintenance levels on that was constant, it needed an awful lot of water to run the sawmill or the woolshed, till a flood took the whole thing away......... concrete block shed and all. :( just before that my dad tried his hand at wind power............ solar panels were really big back then. so polythene pipes with water being heated helped heat the swimming pool, and excess power in summer also went into the pool those farmers probably complain about how easy the city slickers life is....... so maybe if we cant say something nice, we just think before we do say something, cos im sure these people would be there for those in need....... most farmers are generous and helpful types........ Have a nice day and this is not aimed at anyone, i just think some attitudes round here are a bit fierce, living happily, kindly and helpful is a great way to be. You had a swimming pool! |
plod (107) | ||
| 1353397 | 2013-09-13 23:47:00 | ? yes a lot of the farms in our area did, it was a slightly more refined way to swim than in the river where unmentionable things got dumped back then......... is there a problem having a swimming pool? nobody in our family does now......lol but now nobody lives on a farm either....... |
beetle (243) | ||
| 1353398 | 2013-09-14 00:06:00 | I acquired all of my farming expertise from Wal Footrot. | Metla (12) | ||
| 1353399 | 2013-09-14 00:44:00 | I really think that sometimes if you have not walked in those peoples shoes you have no idea how hard or easy that life is............. Life is different for every body, some live theirs well others dont....... so maybe some people should give others some slack, because really nobodys life is perfect. I grew up on a hill farm. 67kms to the dairy for milk....lol we were sheep and beef farmers, we diversified into pigs, deer and trees to try keep afloat........ we diversified to alternative water run power for when we lost normal power........but the maintenance levels on that was constant, it needed an awful lot of water to run the sawmill or the woolshed, till a flood took the whole thing away......... concrete block shed and all. :( just before that my dad tried his hand at wind power............ solar panels were really big back then. so polythene pipes with water being heated helped heat the swimming pool, and excess power in summer also went into the pool those farmers probably complain about how easy the city slickers life is....... so maybe if we cant say something nice, we just think before we do say something, cos im sure these people would be there for those in need....... most farmers are generous and helpful types........ Have a nice day and this is not aimed at anyone, i just think some attitudes round here are a bit fierce, living happily, kindly and helpful is a great way to be. Thanks for that beetle. I get sick and tired at the endless negativity poked at farming; mostly unfounded and, I suspect, promoted by a media hell bent on creating sensationalism. I attended a sustainability seminar, a few months ago, presented by Rod Oram and an ex head of Green Peace, who now does sustainability consultancy work for Governments and business.. Rod Oram’s opening line was something like; “I guess you farmers are sick and tired at getting knocked around the head all the time’. There was a universal murmur of agreement at this comment. If public opinion swayed Government to take too many draconian steps that’d affect agriculture’s viability, it could possibly have some worrying consequences for the economy. I’m not saying farming, and here I’m talking dairying – because that’s where my experience mainly is, is not a good business, because, managed the right way and with correct debt structure, these days it can be good. But it’s risky; drought, overseas markets, government policy can knock us off our perch, in a twinkling. I know that’s the case for everyone – but just to try and show, briefly, it’s not all “beer and skittles”. In the “nineties”, I used to think that it would be American and EU farming interests that’d wreck us (and they lobbied hard and strong to do just that). But these days I can see that it’s the “enemy within” that could do the damage! Just be aware, NZ’s soils are in the main, naturally not that fertile, and, unlike the Americas and a large chunk of the Euro/Asian land mass, we do not have any spare arable land – and that came from the Green Peace man. I live in town now. We have sharemilker’s running the farm for us; a young couple working their rear ends off and who will get ahead. We also have two son’s sharemilking, who own their own herds. So, you could say I might be biased. |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 1353400 | 2013-09-14 00:51:00 | ? yes a lot of the farms in our area did, it was a slightly more refined way to swim than in the river where unmentionable things got dumped back then......... is there a problem having a swimming pool ? nobody in our family does now......lol but now nobody lives on a farm either....... We never did have a pool. The school pool was just down the road and in the summertime, the local community were rostered to look after it - a fun job. Actually in our district, I don't think there was anyone had their own pool. Was owning a pool encouraged at one stage, as a reserve of water for fire fighting ? That kinda rings a bell. Schools gone now, and the pool. |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 1353401 | 2013-09-14 00:55:00 | I think we should all donate to the poor farmers. | Cicero (40) | ||
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