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Thread ID: 50105 2004-10-10 18:56:00 Way, way off topic JJJJJ (528) Press F1
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280136 2004-10-12 08:06:00 Was it 7 or 8 car importers on the "top 100" rich list this year?
Perhaps it may be better than cow farming? 		fairway (5932)
280137 2004-10-12 08:27:00 >
> Unfortunately for the 3/4 of the population that do
> not live in Auckland, their main product to the city
> is their money . One way .
>
> For example, the 6c/litre petrol tax, $30 million on
> an Americas Cup challenge - in Europe!, $80 million
> to buy the rail corridor from Transrail . And the
> purchase of the Westhaven Marina . Much more important
> than boring old roads .

All though any funds to compete overseas for Americas cup are complete hypocrisy as Helen would not contribute to keep a National Tourist/Trade Asset when it was here . "Because it was in Auckland" . How does the Bill get tagged onto AKL now?

80 for the Rail corridor tied into all the other foolishness in the sale/repurchase of Rail, promoted by: self intrested, Idiot, Academic's and Politicoes . This also is all Aucklands fault now?

> > I remain unrepentant about Auckland's political
> > clout .
>
> Understandable . But NZ is a tiny country . Divisions
> do not help our common identity to deal with the
> outside world . We can't function as a community if
> one (wealthy) section is susidised by the rest .

1 section "Auckland" has been subsidiseing the rest for 40 + years, because it never recieves it fair share of the tax it pays .

This simple FACT makes all arguments about the rest subsidiseing Auckland untennable .

You can unnessecarily go back 150 years and find possible wrongs to right for an over priviliged Ethnic minority . But you will not admitt, let alone right, the tax injustice to "Auckland" .

You position here leads to the equally unrealistic "Fine, all Auckland tax spent in the Auckland reigon positionn" as an opposite .


> There is simply no justification in a wealthy country
> like NZ for one city to be singled out for special
> benefits .
>

Since when was getting something you have paid for 10 times over become a specialy bennifit?

Winnston, are you playing Devils Advocate? Taking a position to Debate?
Or this a real personal position?

D . 		drb1 (4492)
280138 2004-10-12 09:52:00 Listen here:
1. I have not a drop of Maori blood.
2. I earn $200,000 per year.
3. I was never sexually abused as a child.
4. I was never really bullied at school.
5. I don't get any benefit/pension/ACC.

Now, these people who are either Maori, poor, were sexually abused or bullied or are beneficiaries are getting all this money from Helen and my taxes are being used to provide this money. What I want to know is how I can get my hands upon some of this money that was mine in the first place, but was stolen from me by IRD.

Perhaps there should be a ministry for downtrodden people like me? 		Rich Man (6261)
280139 2004-10-12 09:58:00 >Winnston, are you playing Devils Advocate? Taking a position to Debate?
>Or this a real personal position?

I imagine that is dependent on what coin the devil pays his advocates in ;) 		R2x1 (4628)
280140 2004-10-12 10:19:00 Welcome, Rich man (you're not a car dealer are you?) ;-)
We seem to be in a minority these days, after all it is quite fashionable to have closet door swinging both ways these days .
To be perfectly honest we need to get creative, find a good theme, then set up support groups, while this is all happening we go directly through the Media and "protest" the dilema . . . the obvious result would see us unendated with sympathy and heaps of someone else's Hard earned tax dollars, that and a Govt . grant to study this theme further .

waddya think? 		fairway (5932)
280141 2004-10-12 10:28:00 > > Winnston, are you playing Devils Advocate? Taking a
> position to Debate?
> > Or this a real personal position?
>
> I imagine that is dependent on what coin the devil
> pays his advocates in ;)

R2

Thats not very nice.

D. 		drb1 (4492)
280142 2004-10-12 10:36:00 Rich man,

What is your tax consultant up to?

Laywers, need 2, 1 to tell the truth to, and get advise from, on all loopholes, and how to doge, bend, avoid, commit crime and get away with it Ect .

Tell second lawyer what he needs to know to win, simply put .

Tax consultants/lawyers same .

Your direct personall income is too high change this .

D . 		drb1 (4492)
280143 2004-10-12 11:00:00 Nothing wrong with a Tax consultant but they seem to take more money than they save these days .. the loopholes are harder to find.

The idea now I rekon is to spend money (selectively) to save money. 		fairway (5932)
280144 2004-10-12 11:10:00 > R2

>That's not very nice.

>D.

Given that one description of his profession (or sections of it) is "advocate", and a requirement of a professional is that one is paid for his endeavours, I imagine that Winston is not likely to consider a collection of souls as a negotiable coin.
Also, Winston is considerably better at returning borax than I am at poking it. If any offence is taken, none was intended, as evidenced by the ;)
R2 		R2x1 (4628)
280145 2004-10-12 13:36:00 R2,

Sorry I dont speak smiley.

It was a light friendly, thats not nice.

Not a WTF one.

D. 		drb1 (4492)
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