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| Thread ID: 50105 | 2004-10-10 18:56:00 | Way, way off topic | JJJJJ (528) | Press F1 |
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| 280106 | 2004-10-11 10:37:00 | >Tell that to the ports of Timaru, Lyttleton, Wellington and Taraunga. Add Napier to that. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 280107 | 2004-10-11 10:46:00 | Not much of a port in Timaru mate .. but Caroline bay is stunning at Christmas time .. look at all those $dollars$ us Aucklanders spend having our holidays down there .. admit it mate .. you's sink without us ..:-) After all we gave you a decent Latte..? |
fairway (5932) | ||
| 280108 | 2004-10-11 10:53:00 | Ele, Acc T/O Mr Phillip Davies. The Red Squad, The "Clowns incident", and associated social issues in A.K Central. Ring any bells, or where you fortunate enough to miss that period? In Which case we have not warred before. D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 280109 | 2004-10-11 10:56:00 | >rediculous prices for your Milk? It is not my milk as I am not involved in farming but unlike most Aucklanders I do appreciate what primary produce does for this country. As for Auckland being cut adrift I probably wouldn't notice too much in regards to my lifestyle. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 280110 | 2004-10-11 11:13:00 | A fascinating thread.... > Well.. all you Non-Aucklanders, I paid $4.00 for a > 2lt of milk tonight.. (the coke was 2 for $4.00) > Seems the money is in dairy farming .. A good point - this has been one of my pet rants for years. Consider the cost per litre of milk versus the cost per litre of petrol while taking into account the processes the raw materials & finished products went through before we purchased them. There is something seriously wrong when milk is almost twice the price of petrol. And I'm with drb1 on the "Auckland" petrol tax - this is payback for years of underspend on Auckland transport by Parliament. I also wish to take this opportunity to extend a warm welcome to all those knockers to come to Auckland and experience the traffic first hand - task number 1 : try meeting a deadline across town any time between 8am and 6pm, Monday to Friday. We might even start with a cross-town delivery on a wet Friday afternoon. Then you may be a little more sympathetic. (and yes I have experienced Wellington and Christchurch "rush-hour" traffic and it's a bit like a Sunday evening drive in Auckland). Like us or lump us, the rest of NZ is stuck with us so the sooner we can look at the bigger picture and deal with various issues on a national scale, then the better off we will be as a country. Individual pain for the greater gain. My 2c |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 280111 | 2004-10-11 11:22:00 | > Your mate Banksie, he left Auckland City with no debt . I believe the only > council in NZ with a ZERO debt . . so what's on your credit card these days . . ? My mate Banksie broke his election promise and hiked the rates, it's called debt transfer :^O In reality the debt burden of privately owned council enterprises will be underwritten by the ratepayers as well . If Auckland does poorly, it does have an affect on the rest of the country but not always negatively . For eg, if Auckland's housing market comes a cropper the rest of us get an interest rate respite . However, if you want to look at the big picture, there is always going to be swings and roundabouts but if one area of NZ is persistently under-performing for whatever reason, sooner or later we all feel it . Hmm! I have no idea what our credit card balance is, I hardly get the thing out of my wallet, preferring instead to pay by Eftps . No doubt my better 1/2 keeps it well exercised ;) > This revenue has for 40 + years been stolen by successive governments, > slipped into the consolidated fund, to buy their cheap booze and lunches, > and fund so many many projects out side the Auckland Provience . Agreed . Pilfering targeted taxes and losing them in the consolidated fund has been a time honoured tradition that has to stop . But hang on there, these *cough* appropriated taxes have been collected from me as well as you . The only differential tax I'm aware of is the one that benefits Auckland . > Tight Wellington government would not invest . now Wellington and > everybody else will pay more . Just because they happen to reside down here part time don't palm them off on us . There are, after all, far more MP's elected in the Auckland region than anywhere else, they're yours ;) Cheers Murray ;P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 280112 | 2004-10-11 11:33:00 | > I have experienced Wellington and Christchurch "rush-hour" traffic and it's a > bit like a Sunday evening drive in Auckland). Actually, statistics are now putting Wellington rush hour up there with Auckland's. Not sure how they did the math though, maybe per distance travelled. BTW, if you want a decent coffee, you'll need to get it down here :D The price of milk? Totally unjustified IMO. oops, common ground ;) Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 280113 | 2004-10-11 11:44:00 | > > This revenue has for 40 + years been stolen by > successive governments, > > slipped into the consolidated fund, to buy their > cheap booze and lunches, > > and fund so many many projects out side the > Auckland Provience. > > Agreed. Pilfering targeted taxes and losing them in > the consolidated fund has been a time honoured > tradition that has to stop. But hang on there, these > *cough* appropriated taxes have been collected from > me as well as you. The only differential tax I'm > aware of is the one that benefits Auckland. The Auckland reigon pays a lerger percentage than any other. and has consistently over time recived less than its fair share. Over time this innequality makes the 1 B per year an insult. Especially as the lions share will be collected in the reigon. SO it is not 1 B from the rest of the country it is maybe less than 70% of that infantisimial ammount. It should be 3 to 4 B per annum for 5 to 7 years minium. A comprehensive overhead rail/highway system should be installed. With outerzone intergrated links. the fares would have to be subsidesed for some time. You would then have a transport system that would bennifit the whole country as well as the reigon. To much of the 1B per annum will be fritted away by out of reigon consultants, administrators, and expensive contractors. The end result will not handell growth. or be efficient it is to road dialated. Why? Because Roading in New Zealand has allways been about Revenue for Centrall Govt. Hence no cordinated national public transport innitiaves. If everyone starts using P/T there is no revenue from radar guns and cameras or enforced spending on licences ect. Wellington will not surrender this revenue source. This is the core of the problem. D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 280114 | 2004-10-11 17:20:00 | Wasn't there at that time!!! | Elephant (599) | ||
| 280115 | 2004-10-11 17:26:00 | Ele, Luck you, D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
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