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281570	2004-10-16 05:51:00	PriceSpy lists a big range of prices for LCD monitors. 17 inch (www.pricespy.co.nz) Are any of these sellers "questionable". e.g. Is PC Mart ok PC Mart (www.pcmart.co.nz) Why does the 17 inch CMV CT722 sell for around $450 at some of these internet sellers but up to $700 at others including DickSmith. What is the difference between a 19 inch monitor with .29 pixel pitch and 1280 by 1024 max res and a 17 inch with .26 pixel pitch and same max resolution? My PC has an Intel motherboard with integrated graphics and no separate graphics card - I think it has an AGP slot though. How would I tell if I need to buy a graphics card to use a particular monitor? What is DVI? Any recommendations for a 17-19 inch LCD monitor, not for games, but need clear text and preferably nice colours. Thanks for any information. Graeme	GraemeP (4992)
281571	2004-10-16 06:17:00	> Why does the 17 inch CMV CT722 sell for around $450 > at some of these internet sellers but up to $700 at > others including DickSmith . Thats the "cost" of holding stock probably . When the price tumbles, the retailer cannot easily pass it on . Then people complain when the retailer carries no stock . Its a no win situation . > What is the difference between a 19 inch monitor with > . 29 pixel pitch and 1280 by 1024 max res and a 17 > inch with . 26 pixel pitch and same max resolution? Obviously the screen is larger . On an LCD 1 pixel on the screen is one pixel displayed, unlike the analogue CRT screens when its "as fast as the beam can turn on and off" . Very indistinct . Hence LCD is usually much sharper . But the resolution is unchanged . To go much higher in resolution can make some characters/icons etc very small . Sharp, but too small . > My PC has an Intel motherboard with integrated > graphics and no separate graphics card - I think it > has an AGP slot though . How would I tell if I need > to buy a graphics card to use a particular monitor? > What is DVI? No, those monitors will work but not with a DVI interface . They should have both, so you just use VGA . With VGA, the signal is converted from digital to analogue in the video adapter, then back to digital in the monitor . With DVI its digital all the way, and therefore sharper . I use DVI and VGA (2 LCD's on the one PC) > > Any recommendations for a 17-19 inch LCD monitor, not > for games, but need clear text and preferably nice > colours . My advice is to go somehere to look at them operating side by side . Harvey Norman etc . You make an informed choice that way . You need to look for a zero bright pixel guarantee . A failed bright pixel could be annoying to say the least, and most cheap screens will make you put up with several before they are considered "faulty" . That can be another reason for price differences with some brands . CMV only have a 30 day zero pixel warranty at the base level price I think . And finally, you need to use the site search facility . This has been well covered in the past .	godfather (25)
281572	2004-10-16 06:33:00	You need to be careful buying LCD screens. Like most monitors any one range will have categories within it; consumer, commercial/business and professional with quality and warrantee increasing as you rise up the category along with price. Price variations between the same model/cat from different sellers may suggest that the lower cost is due to parallel import which may prove frustrating if it needs to be returned due to a fault. The 19 inch has a larger viewing area. Your board should be fine to run an LCD monitor. DVI is a digital signal rather than the analogue type of signal that most CRT monitors use, DVI in the specs usually refers to the graphics connection (where the monitor cable connects to the card or onboard graphics). All LCD's use digital natively, graphics cards convert from digital to analogue to the output which is then converted back to digital by the LCD monitor so it can use it. However, most newer graphics cards come with DVI output/connectors now so, the tooing and froing doesn't need to happen. Some LCD's come with either connection method, some with just DVI and some with just analogue. Either way a converter cable can be used if your setup does not match that of your choice of monitor. If you want good text, go for a business category monitor, if the colours are needed just for home photo editing and such like this should be fine. If it's professional graphics your into use a professional LCD or stick to a good CRT monitor which are superior in this regard to LCD's as they are for gaming as well. With a business category, you should get a better warrantee, check the stuck/dead pixel policy. The Philips B series has a no dead/stuck pixel guarantee. Hope that helps. Murray P	Murray P (44)
281573	2004-10-16 06:34:00	Going to have to get my WPM up to speed. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
281574	2004-10-16 07:01:00	If you want to read through this thread (forums.overclockers.co.nz), you'll see that most people have found out the quality of VGA isn't too much different from DVI.	alphazulusixeightniner (185)
281575	2004-10-16 10:32:00	Thanks for all the information. After reading all that thread I found the Philips 190S5FB mentioned here ascent monitors (www.ascent.co.nz) was liked. It doesn't have a zero bright pixels guarantee like e.g. the 170B5CG but has a better contrast ratio 500:1 versus 450:1 and the 170B5CG has both VGA and DVI versus the 190 VGA only. Has anyone experienced a stuck bright pixel and can say how annoying it is? Just to check - a 19 inch screen at 1280 by 1024 pixels would show the same amount of info as 17 inch at the same res but everything looks bigger so is more readable - is that right? I mentioned colours just because I recently got a 17 inch LCD at work and the screen space is great but the colours aren't as vibrant as the CRT I had before. From what I could find, the better contrast ratio of the 190 should mean it has slightly better looking colours. Graeme	GraemeP (4992)
281576	2004-10-16 21:35:00	I have three dead pixels on my LCD since day one of starting it up, which is unheard of before for CMV's. I still HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend them. They are planning on slashing prices to become world number one seller, thats why theyre cheap. However, of the many families who I know own a CMV LCD, none have a single dead pixel. It was my fault though, I brought it overseas...... Didn't test it before I left to come back. Might have even developed whilst being shaken around maybe. Manufacture offered us warranty if we ever took it back, however, to your question, I do not ever take notice of the dead pixels. They are almost non-existent. You can't really see it unless you have a screen of black colour, which I believe, not many would. So I haven't bothered with getting a replacement. Otherwise a superb monitor, highly recommended	~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
281577	2004-10-16 23:32:00	Apparently the stuck pixels can be more annoying, ie; stuck on red, blue or green. It also depend on where they are on the screen. If they're right where you do most of your viewing/work they'll be more noticeable than off to the side somewhere. As suggested, check out the monitor first, which means the safest option is to buy locally. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
281578	2004-10-16 23:38:00	I have one of these Monitors and i find it really good, i would recomend this product, and brand . had no probs with it at all . only probs would be operator ones anyway . beetle	beetle (243)
281579	2004-10-17 00:17:00	If you have a faulty pixel on delivery then you have every right to return it for one not faulty. They can't sell faulty stuff to you so if you complain then you can get a new one. Once it's past a week or something you're really in the waranty period. I'm wondering if CMV is actually a rebranding of something else (www.anandtech.com). Looks like there are only 5 manufacturers and the rest are rebrandings.	alphazulusixeightniner (185)
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