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Thread ID: 50381	2004-10-19 00:52:00	Mouse sensing point of ball/optics	Woof (2402)	Press F1

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282519	2004-10-19 00:52:00	I use a mouse by rotating etc my wrist which is otherwise resting alongwith my forearm. Accordingly I like the mouse to have the sensing ball or optical pick-up as close to the front/fingers as possible but most mice I see now have the ball/optical pick-up down under the palm of the hand. Any recommendations, please, for a mouse, preferrably wireless, that has the optical pick-up pont out towards the fingertips. Also one shaped to allow easy lifting up to relocate - NOT shaped like a limpit ! Cheers	Woof (2402)
282520	2004-10-19 05:04:00	Hi Woof I can't quite see what difference that would make. I use my mouse with minimal finger movement for vertical shift and a tiny amount of wrist for lateral movements. To do this, I have the speed and acceleration set to high. The pointer moves the full diagonal of a 19" screen with a 2 cm movement of my fingertips. The position of the ball or optical sensor makes no difference as far as I can see. I'm using a Logitec 4 button scrolling ball-mouse on one box and a Genius five button scrolling optical-mouse on the other. Could you explain what you are trying to achieve in a little more detail? Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
282521	2004-10-19 23:13:00	When I use the mouse I tend to move my hand, just my hand above the wrist, from left to right. The arc of movement is greater the further away towards my fingers that the mouse's point of sensing is from the heel of my wrist which is the central rotation point. Thus when choosing between one mouse and the next my preference is for the one which has it's point of sensing furtherest away from the heel of my hand when using it. I DO notice the difference and there are several mice around the office that would NOT be my choice nor the choice of others who, like me, would rather have an old simple mouse on a wire than a bright shiny new (Samsung for example) "on offer" Thanks for your input	Woof (2402)
282522	2004-10-19 23:29:00	Hmm . . . . I think I understand, what you are saying is that you pivot the mouse around your wrist and fingers, so the further away from the pivot point the greater the movement . However, I suggest you study what actually happens when you move the cursor around the desk top . There is very little use for having the mouse track in an arc, to go vertically, horizontally or diagonally requires much the same amount of movement (subject to the mouse's sensitivity) where the pick-up is in relation to your hand unless, of course you are scribing an arc . If you prefer to control the mouse with your fingers more than the who;e hand, would a track ball do it for you? Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
282523	2004-10-20 00:17:00	Yes, I understood your description and reasoning from your first post, but as Murray says, an arc is not going to provide all mousing control movements . That is why I described my setup which uses minimal hand movement and makes the ball/sensor position virtually irrelevant . I just checked and 1cm of lateral movement scans my 19" screen from one side to the other & corner to corner diagonally, and 1 cm does the same from top to bottom or bottom to top using finger-flexing movement only . I hadn't actually measured it in my previous post, just guesstimated . Can you really expect to get any more-economical mousing movement than that? I think the answer lies more in the software than hardware myself . I do a lot of detailed graphics work and despite the sensitivity I still have full control over the cursor . Your mousage may vary . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
282524	2004-10-20 00:57:00	If you're doing a lot of work with your mouse, which seems likely given your fairly specific requirements, it may pay to consider the long-term effects from using only your wrist to manoeuvre the mouse. Moving the mouse with your forearm instead, and keeping a fairly straight wrist, transfers the movement into your elbow and shoulder, reducing the risk of doing fairly significant damage to your wrist. [Not intended as a telling off - purely an observation :) ]	Spartacus (3313)
282525	2004-10-21 08:15:00	Changing the speed/resposiveness would be fine if I was the only one using 'my' mouse such as at home. However, doing so makes 'my' mouse less user friendly to others who infrequently need to use my workstation. As I said, I am NOT the only person around the office who notices this difference between some mice. And in nearly a decade of using a (righthanded) mouse in this manner with my otherwise UNused left hand I have NEVER had any problems other than when someone trie to give me a new super-duper mouse withthe point of sensing close to the palm of my hand rather than under the first joint of my fingers. I guess I should look in the 'museum' box of junk for old discarded mice or otherwise start manufacturing my own. Thanks but I'll just keep looking............	Woof (2402)
282526	2004-10-21 08:18:00	Changing the speed/responsiveness would be fine if I was the only one using 'my' mouse such as at home. (I do this at least daily with my office keyboard because the accounting system always slows mine down ...) However, doing so would make 'my' mouse less user friendly to others who infrequently need to use my workstation. As I said, I am NOT the only person around the office who notices this difference between some mice. And in nearly a decade of using a (righthanded) mouse in this manner with my otherwise UNused left hand I have NEVER had any problems other than when someone tries to give me a new super-duper mouse withthe point of sensing close to the palm of my hand rather than under the first joint of my fingers ! I guess I should look in the 'museum' box of junk for old discarded mice or otherwise start manufacturing my own..... Thanks, but I'll just keep looking............	Woof (2402)
282527	2004-10-21 09:20:00	How big are your hands? I have the heel of my hand on the desk and just use my fingers to move the mouse,the further foward i move the mouse away from the hell of my hand the bigger the arc is. But i have reasonably big hands...	metla (154)
282528	2004-10-21 19:09:00	man my mouse is weird, i cannot get it to track in an arc unless i actually move it in an arc, meh.... but seriously im just like metla, i just put the heel of my hand on the desk and my middle 3 finger on top of the mouse and then use their movement to control my mouse, works wonders	lagbort (5041)
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