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Thread ID: 50342 2004-10-18 02:00:00 Any Novell gurus out there?? CYaBro (73) Press F1
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282183 2004-10-18 02:00:00 I have a client who uses Novell Netware 4.2 and I don't know much about Novell (and don't really want to either :D)
They had an old Brother laser printer that was attached to one of the workstations on LPT1. This workstation runs a program at startup called nptwin95 which talks to the server and configures the print queue on the server to the printer. That way anyone who sends a print job to that queue the server knows where to send it to.

They have now bought a Canon iR2200 multifuntion device. This has a network socket on it and supports Netware so I tried to set it up to print via the network rather than parallel port. I have since found that I need to install UNIX print services on the Novell server but to do that I need the CD with the install files on it. Reading the manual on how to install this it looks like the CD should have come with the Novell Netware 4.2 but it didn't.
Trying to find it on the net to download was no help and trying to contact Novell was no help either.
So I setup the Canon as the Brother was originally setup via LPT1 and all worked OK but would rather use the network.

Now they have upgraded their PC's and they run Windows XP (were running Win98) and the nptwin95 does not work in XP.

So how do I get the printer to work again??
Is there a replacement of nptwin95 for windows XP??
Anyone know where to get the UNIX print services from??
CYaBro (73)
282184 2004-10-18 02:09:00 Novell have traditionally provided the client software free. Server stuff like services require the paid-for

Probably the cheapest solution would be to set up an old computer with W98 to work as a printer server.

Incidentally it shows the reliability of Netware --- it is running with no maintenance (apparently no administrator, and even the installation CD missing). Just turn it on and it works. :D
Graham L (2)
282185 2004-10-18 02:17:00 P.S. Try "netware printing xp" for some ideas from Microsoft. The first few links might help. Graham L (2)
282186 2004-10-18 02:20:00 > Probably the cheapest solution would be to set up an
> old computer with W98 to work as a printer server.
Thought about that but would rather avoid if possible.

> Incidentally it shows the reliability of Netware ---
> it is running with no maintenance (apparently no
> administrator, and even the installation CD
> missing). Just turn it on and it works. :D
Yea, it has run sweet as for about 3 1/2 years 24/7/365.
It isn't doing much mind you though. It is only there because one software app they use will only run on Novell.
CYaBro (73)
282187 2004-10-18 02:28:00 p.p.s The search string is for Google, of course. I see that the Unix printer servicves are an "optional extra" to 4.x which comes on its own CD. Graham L (2)
282188 2004-10-18 02:37:00 nptwin95 is only used for directly connected printers (via LTP1).

YOu need to set up printing via the NDS with nwadmn32.exe. If nobody has answered the question by later on tonight I will have a go.

John
JohnD (509)
282189 2004-10-18 03:51:00 nptwin95 only works on 98 and 95 never tried it on ME. To do what John D suggests I think youll need Novell 5.xx or better. As this allows for plug and play printing for Novell aware printers.

But heres is what we did we brought a print server(like a hp jetdirect box) from dse and set up IP printing (make sure the ip is fixed on the printserver) which is quite easy under xp and win 2k you just have to create an ip port and point the printer driver at that you must know the ip of the print server but that comes with a web management utilty make sure the ip of the printer.

You could also set up a windows work group within the Novell enviroment , load the windows client but make the novell client primary login (windows and the novell client co-exsist quite happly) then share the printer within the workgroup

John
>> nptwin95 is only used for directly connected printers (via LTP1).
you still need nwadmin to setup printer objects print servers and related Print Queue.
not quite correct the printer server yes but you can setup up a workstation to act as a work station and a print server which other network clients can connect to for printing we have several of these setup on our network.

You could also try a hp jet direct box but im sure how the Canon printer will react to this as the latest models are very fussy
also Canons are a strange beast when it comes to network printing

If you what more information on the first option beama_1 at hotmail dot com ill get more information on our setup tommorrow when I'm at work. The reply wont be fast , work being work and all that but I will reply.
beama (111)
282190 2004-10-18 04:01:00 Don't think they need to buy a print server as the Canon has one built in. i.e. can set an IP address etc on the copier itself.
The problem is telling the server to print to an IP address.
To do this you need to install UNIX Print Services but it looks like you have to buy that as an extra :(.

I have done a bit more searching and found instructions (sort of) on how to use IPX printing so will give that a try tomorrow.

Will let you know how I got on.
Thanks for the replies!
CYaBro (73)
282191 2004-10-18 04:12:00 if you know the ip of the printer then it should be straight forward as long as the ip is fixed
add new printer.....local printer...create new printer port... select > tcp/ip port you should be able to follow the wizard from there each work staion will have to be set up in this manner there is one catch though make sure when asked tto choose custom and select lpr printing

Good luck
beama (111)
282192 2004-10-18 04:15:00 sorry using this method bypasses the need for any novell involvement except
that the network enviroment should use both tcp/ip and ipx (tcp/ip is not native to novell untill novell 5.xx
beama (111)
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