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283973	2004-10-24 00:02:00	Billy, We had Deregulation (Supposedly) Missng Car Dealers and at the same time regulating Tow Truck Drivers. Now we have back door regulation buy OSH and Industry groups, Government enforced spending for meaningless certification, at a greater expense to the Consumer. There is nothing wrong with safety standards, untill they are used to increase prices to consumers which is allready happening. How long before another "Deregulation" cycle, and some price reajustment, downwards. D.	drb1 (4492)
283974	2004-10-24 02:01:00	Just be thankful folks that you dont live in Queensland, then you would know what regulation was all about. :D	Terry Porritt (14)
283975	2004-10-24 02:25:00	> Just be thankful folks that you dont live in > Queensland, then you would know what regulation was > all about. :D And "Kiwi Joe" can be thanked for most of that, no? D.	drb1 (4492)
283976	2004-10-24 02:48:00	BillyT are you suggesting that it will be illegal for a person to build himself a computer? Do you think they could enforce that? Jack	JJJJJ (528)
283977	2004-10-24 03:03:00	>>And "Kiwi Joe" can be thanked for most of that, no? It's weird, they're so far to the right that they meet themselves coming back from the far left! Now if you are a qualified electronics technician, TV repairer etc. you have to be registered as an electrician, presumably in case the TV set is full of household wiring! The techs have been up in arms about it over the last year or two, according to the editorials and letters in Silicon Chip magazine. Now when it comes to building up a computer, I don't think any legislative changes will affect what you do in your own home, but it could well affect those who work from their garage building up computers for sale, and buying and selling second hand stuff. (There is also the question of being a licensed second hand dealer too.)	Terry Porritt (14)
283978	2004-10-24 03:12:00	No Jack, you can (build) work on your own appliances if you wish, but you can't work for reward. It is debatable whether you can sell the fruits of your labour without having it safety tested first but that is more likely to be a matter of caveat emptor. If they don't ask they don't get. The only electrical work you cannot do on your own behalf is new houshold or commercial wiring installation requiring direct connection to the main supply. You can install the wiring, but it requires independent testing and certification before connection to the mains. This is one where the insurers will really go to town if (for example) somebody "does up" a house and installs new circuits. If one circuit fails and causes damage to property, the person who did the work will be in a fairly sticky situation. All the proposed changes have been publicly notified for comment with the usual industry group consultation, newspaper advertising and notices in trade journals etc, and further notification will follow when the legislative changes get a little closer. If you have an interest in these matters, keep your eyes open. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
283979	2004-10-24 03:46:00	Terry have you read the above posts? You don't have to registered as a electrician, only as an Electrical Service Technician (A or B class). If you are a 2nd Hand Dealer you have to have all electrical items checked before you can sell them by a registered Tech or Electrician. A 2nd Hand Dealer in Christchurch learn that the hard way. Remember the Sale of Goods Act,etc. A computer is classified as an Electrical Appliance, as are printers,scanners,etc. Therefore you are required by law to have the appropriate Electrical Registration to assemble, install and repair. The public can only touch their own appliance. The powers to be are really into safety, so if they catch any unregistered person doing work they will go to town on you. Jeff. PS Have been a tech for over 20 years and I have seen the work of some of these "experts", just because you have a little knowledge does not mean you know everything. On the other hand they have keep me in a job.	Jeff (1070)
283980	2004-10-24 04:10:00	>>Terry (er.. Jeff) have you read the above posts? I'm talking of Queensland, that's in Australia you know :)	Terry Porritt (14)
283981	2004-10-24 04:18:00	Jeff wrote "A computer is classified as an Electrical Appliance, as are printers,scanners,etc. Therefore you are required by law to have the appropriate Electrical Registration to assemble, install and repair." Are you certain about this? Have the Regs already changed? The following is from an EWRB document "Registration is required for the carrying out of “prescribed electrical work” and working on an electrical appliance such as a computer is deemed not to be within this category provided that “the work can be undertaken without removing screens, covers, or the like designed to prevent inadvertent contact with fittings intended to be supplied at voltages above extra low voltage”. Refer to regulation 17 2(b). In a practical sense this means that, except for the power supply module, most work on a computer is not “prescribed electrical work”."	PaulD (232)
283982	2004-10-24 04:29:00	Yes, But I was not willing to argue such without the copy of the regulation. But they may try to change this because fault in low voltage can cause fault in high. D.	drb1 (4492)
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