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Thread ID: 135255	2013-10-13 02:11:00	Forget Len's toy train set, here's how New York does it	WalOne (4202)	PC World Chat

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1355923	2013-10-13 02:11:00	OK, given NYC already has its subway and surface systems, here's a talk by Janette Sadik-Khan, New York's Transportation Commissioner on how to get life back into the city, with resounding support from well, just about everyone. In the last 5 years, she's introduced 50kms of protected bike lanes (yay), dedicated fast bus lanes, and painted out sections of road turning them into pedestrian only malls. And the locals love it (and her). No more talk of trains. Please! (www.ted.com any_more.html) Janette Sadik-Khan was appointed commissioner of the New York City Department of Transportation in 2007. For six years, she managed nearly 5,000 employees and was responsible for the operation and management of some 6,300 miles of streets throughout the city's 5 boroughs. Despite her access to a budget of some $2 billion, Sadik-Khan adopted a designer's approach to urban innovation: rapid testing and regular iteration. In other words, try an idea to see if it would work; if it didn't, try something else, no harm done. In Times Square, an iconic New York City location visited by 350,000 people every day, this involved the creation of pedestrian zones by painting the asphalt and putting up some lawn chairs. The success of the approach allowed her to create 50 pedestrian zones throughout the city, in the process repurposing 26 acres of space previously allocated to cars. In 2013, she helped to introduce the instantly-popular Citi Bike bicycle-sharing program to the city, making New York one of the cycling capitals in the United States. :thumbs:	WalOne (4202)
1355924	2013-10-13 02:25:00	And what's the capacity of all these buses compared to trains :rolleyes:	pcuser42 (130)
1355925	2013-10-13 02:38:00	And what's the capacity of all these buses compared to trains :rolleyes: I wasn't specifically making an anti-train post, but Janette's concept of thinking outside of the square has a lot of merit. Did you follow the link?	WalOne (4202)
1355926	2013-10-13 02:42:00	Did you follow the link? Yes	pcuser42 (130)
1355927	2013-10-13 06:18:00	Congestion disappears if you get rid of cars. The cyclists have to turn and head for home half way to work at midday. Trains are doing their usual work (or not) to rule and the bus was full before it got to the 4th stop. Nobody in town to buy stuff so naturally the shops don't need all those delivery trucks. The pigeons are delighted. ;)	R2x1 (4628)
1355928	2013-10-13 17:59:00	The problem is we need proper public transport across Auckland - not just round the CBD. Not everyone works in the CBD. Buses don't even run after 7pm in some suburbs, going from one to another - West to SOuth or West to North for instance, requires a ridiculous amount of actual buses, stops, walks in between and hours of travel time. It's not even cheap and takes longer than going by car. In some cases it's not possible at all. I was asked by tourists once about visiting Akld without a car.....how easy would it be for them to tour various scattered places on public transport....well.....not....	pctek (84)
1355929	2013-10-13 20:21:00	The problem is we need proper public transport across Auckland - not just round the CBD . Not everyone works in the CBD . +1 Public transport wont work when you have to walk the last 5-10km to get to where you need to be (in the rain) Simple fact is Ak Council cant be too far off being bankrupt anyway, there is no money for a train set Ak Council pays out 20% of its income on interest , thats interest only, we still have yet to pay back all the borrowing . Hands up who thinks it would be a good idea to rake that up debt even higher by borrowing for trains & running them at a huge loss ?? Look at there own data, projections are to keep spending 2x rates revenue . aucklandcouncil . govt . nz/EN/planspoliciesprojects/reports/Documents/2013preelectionreport . pdf" target="_blank">www . aucklandcouncil . govt . nz	1101 (13337)
1355930	2013-10-13 20:29:00	+1 Public transport wont work when you have to walk the last 5-10km to get to where you need to be (in the rain) And that's what the new bus network is for...	pcuser42 (130)
1355931	2013-10-13 20:32:00	The problem is we need proper public transport across Auckland - not just round the CBD. Not everyone works in the CBD. This. All of the crap they seem to do revolves around the CBD, or South Auckland. The west and north get royally screwed (and I presume the more eastern reaches do, too, though I've not lived/worked there to know firsthand).	inphinity (7274)
1355932	2013-10-13 20:32:00	I thought the new bus network was to transport the old customers when the new trains get the old problems? ;)	R2x1 (4628)
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