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Thread ID: 50584	2004-10-25 14:11:00	Woosh is evil	Will Hunt (3655)	Press F1

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284637	2004-10-28 00:17:00	>If there was anything in what you say. The Commerce Commission >would have been sent to chastise by TELESCAM, months ago. I don't have to argue about this. Its the law. It is a fact. Go read the Fair Trading Act. >You remind me of the guy who insisted that there was a "command line >entry" to stop smoke comeing from his PSU. Irrelevant.	Will Hunt (3655)
284638	2004-10-28 00:38:00	Well my mother got punished by her mother for saying 'expecting' in 1959 I guess you're of the same generation	Will Hunt (3655)
284639	2004-10-28 00:40:00	Woosh is notoriously bad, go to any computer releated forum in NZ and you'll find threads about the poor service. There were even articles in the Hearld and PCWorld that came to the conclusion that if the service actually worked the way it was advertised it would be wonderful, but it doesnt. Woosh made a bad choice when they chose the hardware they were going to use for their network. Woosh suffers from high latency and theres nothing that can be done about it because of their shitty(does this word offend you POTUS?) network. There will always be users such as drb1 who find the service good, but the majority of people who use Woosh feel ripped off. The debate as to whether you should get unlimited is an interesting one. Right from day one there has been a reasonable usage clause. My understanding was that woosh deemed reasonable usage at around 14Gb per month. In my opinion if your stupid enough to enter into a agreement without reading the fine print then you get what you deserve. All the people who are complaining about the data caps seem to be wanting to be able to sit on DC++ or bittorrent and leach 24/7, anyone who got woosh so they could leach is a fool. It would be nice if woosh changed their advertising campaign as it does seem a bit dishonest. Those people who were hoping to leach as much as possible without restriction are mugs.	Pete O'Neil (250)
284640	2004-10-28 00:41:00	You have the right to object to my objection - but you do not have the right to insult me. Ageism is nearly as abhorant as racism.	POTUS (5276)
284641	2004-10-28 00:42:00	Oh dear. Will, you are very upset, aren't you? Fine print is very definitely not "used to conceal important information" in the Woosh. Not even a lawyer would try that argument. ;-) . So your research is not very useful. The "Unlimited" plan is shown as: "Unlimited subject to reasonable use. Refer to FAQs for details", and there is an easily found section in the FAQ headed "What is the definition of the 'subject to reasonable use' clause?" There's no "fine print at the end". Obviously Woosh is not suited to you. I suspect you might not be happy with any ISP, because they are all trying to make a profit. :D Bandwidth can't be profitably sold for less than what it costs. Unlimited (infinite) amounts cost infinite amounts. I'm looking forward to Woosh expanding their Christchurch coverage a few blocks north. With "reasonable users" (which might be an optimistic wish), their service should improve.	Graham L (2)
284642	2004-10-28 00:42:00	> > If there was anything in what you say . The Commerce > Commission > would have been sent to chastise by > TELESCAM, months ago . > > I don't have to argue about this . Its the law . It is > a fact . > > Go read the Fair Trading Act . The Commerce Ccommision and Telescam obviously dont agree with you . Much of the law is about interpretation . and balance . The fair trading act is sitting beside me wright now, along with so many others, you need to open your mind, or perhaps the other eye . Telescam would not allow Woosh to advertise illegally for 1 second . D . > > You remind me of the guy who insisted that there was > a "command line > entry" to stop smoke comeing from > his PSU . > > Irrelevant . Very relevant . your ftp upload issues are undoubatably related to your setup, and/or the recipient setup . The service is not that slow . If you wholly believe it is the service, get A Woosh Technician to do a physical on site Evaluation . If its their service, it will be free, if not, you pay . D .	drb1 (4492)
284643	2004-10-28 00:48:00	Unlimited does not equate to infinite amounts,all lines due to speed constraints have a maximum that can be transferred over a set period of time,They would have done their sums and projections.If they lose money its not from the odd heavy user (and 20g is not an extraordinary amount) but because their own business practises.(by that i mean have a crap service,not make enough money due to lack of signups due to the noted bad service,and then start stinging their exsisting customers for there own inability to bring a worthwhile product to the market) They termed it unlimited,they deserve the backlash.	metla (154)
284644	2004-10-28 01:20:00	~ . . not another one!!! Why do we always have to get this? Don't you guys get sick of it? Who cares if your not happy about their service . We're not going to be any help just because you complain . Go write a million complain letters to whoever you want to complain to . See! . . . you're just bringing a flame thread to the forum . If you want someone to listen to your anger, ring the 0900 numbers . Otherwise take the case to Commerce Commission and put your money on legal fees . I can assure you you won't win . Read the rules, if you don't have anything positive to say, don't say it .	~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
284645	2004-10-28 01:23:00	Im pretty sure we are allowed to discuss isp's,service,regulations and what not SY,I can't see any flaming as yet,but i can see the silliness in someone posting a whinge post about others they percieve to be whinging. Not trying to have a go at ya,but its best to just move along if a thread is of no interest,rather then striking out at others having a conversation that doesn't include or interest you. That last line in your post is quite ironic.	metla (154)
284646	2004-10-28 01:31:00	... or someone posting a whinge post about someone posting a whinge post about others they percieve to be whinging.	POTUS (5276)
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