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Thread ID: 50584	2004-10-25 14:11:00	Woosh is evil	Will Hunt (3655)	Press F1

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284627	2004-10-27 02:46:00	> My Woosh connection is so unreliable with constant > disconnections and slow speeds (ranging from dial up > - 200k) I couldn't download 20 gig in a month if I > tried. Perhaps this is part of their master plan ? > :-) Why, I installed min put up the expander that it didnt really need and havent touched the setup up since . I brought an extra cable for the laptop, and just unplug the ariel and cable from the modem when I take it out. I have never had any of these problems that are being discribed. Am I just lucky? Or Am I too easy to please? I think not because Telescam Dial up was a royal rectal pain. D.	drb1 (4492)
284628	2004-10-27 02:53:00	> Just type "woosh nz" into google and you'll see ... That's hardly a great revelation. People aren't going to post threads saying "wow woosh is just going great, thought I'd let you all know" Those that are unhappy whinge, those that are happy are unlikely to trumpeting it to the nation.	whtafo (156)
284629	2004-10-27 02:54:00	> Not any more Thanks to UBS = Unbundled Bitstream > service ;) which means bye bye Telecom fees :) (Do a > search for Press F1 for UBS etc.. for more info.) No it doesn't, there will still be Telecom fees - just incorporated into the ISP charge. They'll still very much be paying Telecom for access to the network.	whtafo (156)
284630	2004-10-27 03:52:00	Bollux is not foul laugage. Kindergarten children use words stronger then this. your objection to this is either 1) You want to pick a fight with the person who said it/ find something to critisise them about 2) You're some incredibly closeted old person who has not been into a city or any social event since 1910 Anyway, i've got better things to do, then argue with someone of your supopsed 'high moral standing' As they say in Dunedin: Get over it.	Will Hunt (3655)
284631	2004-10-27 04:11:00	>> I can't update my website or forums, because FTP >> keeps cutting out. I can't transfer 20mb via FTP >> without having to sit there and nurse it for 5hours. >>Posted by: drb1 >What are you "really up" to? >You are spouting garbage? >If its taking that long to download 20mb, its your setup. >I downd load hundreds of MB in that time on the 1 GB plan. Excuse me Mr rude, but i believe you have completely missed what I've said. 1) I'm complaining about upload via ftp[ Saying that you download hundreds is completely unrelevent... I'd better spell it out for you: Uploading, i.e uploading to the net FTP i.e File Transfer protocol. Woosh does not work well with FTP. i do not know why, but it doesn't. 1) I'm not >The limits of the "unlimited" where perfectly clear to me at sign up and >they are not in fine print. read my post: >>While i was aware of the reasonable use clause, it was indicated to >>me that this applied to those who completely abused the service up to >>40-60gb. And what Metla and the others are getting at is : Saying "Unlimited" when it is actually limited to 10gb, is false advertising. It doesn't matter how large the small print is. They have no right to use the word Unlimited when it's limited. You can't go and say Free game and then say, but you got to give us $5 postage. a few years ago EA did a thing where you buy one, and got another free. In smaller print it said that you had to send in $5 for postage and handling. Someone did a class action suit against them, and won, because they'd said 'free' in their promotion, but you still had to hand over money. Everyone, including myself, got their money back. The next year, EA did the same thing, but this time they said "Buy one, get another for only $5" -------------- Moral of the story ? you can't promise something with the large print, and take it away in the small. Its illegal.	Will Hunt (3655)
284632	2004-10-27 04:17:00	>>>From the fair trading act: Many advertisements include fine print sections containing details of conditions and qualifications. However, you must not use fine print to conceal important information which would be critical to people’s decision to buy your goods or services. Fine print cannot be used to modify a claim made in the “big print” or headline. If the overall impression given by an advertisement is misleading, information contained in fine print may not save you from prosecution for breaching the Act. If there are important conditions on a sale, or on other transactions such as finance agreements, these should be shown in a bold, clear and compelling way in the advertisement. “Special Conditions Apply” does not protect you when the conditions are inconsistent with or modify the main message. [i]Example A bank advertised a mortgage product on television and in the newspapers. In both cases there was fine print at the end of the advertisement which modified the offer that was represented in the body of the advertisement. The bank was convicted and fined $16,000 under the Fair Trading Act.[i] www.comcom.govt.nz	Will Hunt (3655)
284633	2004-10-27 20:31:00	> Bollux is not foul laugage . Kindergarten children use words stronger then this . Actually, they don't . And even if they did, this is not a kindergarten it's a public forum whose rules do not allow the use of bad language . My daughter would be sent to her room for saying less than that . I object to the use of bad language for any reason . It may be common in your social circle, but that odesn't make it right . It show that the user doens't have any respect for the person(s) they are talking to, and that they don't have a strong grasp of english . > your objection to this is either > 1) You want to pick a fight with the person who said it/ find something to critisise them about > 2) You're some incredibly closeted old person who has not been into a city or any social event since 1910 Neither is correct . We obviously mix in different social circles . Actually, the use of such language is extremely childish, it's a bit like a 4 year old who repeatedly says "poos" . It sound good simply because they know it's wrong . Most of us grow out of it as we grow up, but some of us continnue to swear because we think it makes us sound macho - it doesn't, by the way . You have the right to object to my objection - but you do not have the right to insult me . Ageism is nearly as abhorant as racism . > Anyway, i've got better things to do, then argue with someone of your supopsed 'high moral standing' Why did you , then?	POTUS (5276)
284634	2004-10-27 20:36:00	Poos and wees...	metla (154)
284635	2004-10-27 21:01:00	Hi, It depends on your location, when I have my laptop at home (Eden Tce), I get the described problems with disconnections and slow speed. When I take it to work (CBD), Ponsonby Rd and other places it's a bit better.	Marlboro (4607)
284636	2004-10-28 00:02:00	> -------------- > Moral of the story ? you can't promise something with > the large print, and take it away in the small . Its > illegal . > If there was anything in what you say . The Commerce Commission would have been sent to chastise by TELESCAM, months ago . You remind me of the guy who insisted that there was a "command line entry" to stop smoke comeing from his PSU . There is nothing wrong with my setup or hardware, said he . Its all the providers fault . D .	drb1 (4492)
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