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| Thread ID: 50584 | 2004-10-25 14:11:00 | Woosh is evil | Will Hunt (3655) | Press F1 |
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| 284597 | 2004-10-26 04:27:00 | > > > > > What a load of garbage,Whoosh have quite quickly > > gotten a bad name,and it looks like for good > reason. > > BOLLOX! They have got a very good name. One or two > people complaining on PressF1 isn't exactly universal > condemnation Just type "woosh nz" into google and you'll see ... |
SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 284598 | 2004-10-26 04:33:00 | > Then how can other countries capable of doing it? Get out your atlas and check just where in the world we are, and how few people the costs are able to be spread across. Most data downloaded does not originate on NZ servers. The cost of a 155 Mb data link from here to the US is $16,600,000 ($16.6 million NZ$) for a 15 year period if it was purchased early at a discounted rate. Otherwise it could be higher. Its $5,200,000 for a 155 Mb link to Australia under the same conditions. If we were in the US or Europe, the costs would be much less, as most data would be local and there are many more that can give diversity of usage and share the costs. The high usage by the relatively few customers does indeed spoil it for everyone, as has been well pointed out above. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 284599 | 2004-10-26 04:35:00 | Look at a map of the world. Compare the population of NZ with that of Europe, or North America. It costs a lot of money to put cables under the sea. It costs a lot of money to put satellites up, and a lot of money to use them. NZ is at the far end of everything. It costs. It costs a lot of money to put cables under roads. That determines the base price of wired connections. Woosh is using a radio transmission system. That's a shared medium. A few heavy users will quickly mop up the available bandwidth.That business plan I mentioned would probably require adding dedicated cell units to service it; thus it's expensive by "wired" standards. But comparing prices and deals in NZ and the rest of the world is just useless. We are subject to the "economics" of the real world. The "new"economics don't apply. They never have. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 284600 | 2004-10-26 04:59:00 | > My current plans is 2000 kbps with no cap, my montly usage should be around 50GB - 60GB and I pay only $120 What plan? What ISP? George |
george12 (7) | ||
| 284601 | 2004-10-26 05:09:00 | > > What a load of garbage,Whoosh have quite quickly > > gotten a bad name,and it looks like for good > reason. > > BOLLOX! They have got a very good name. One or two > people complaining on PressF1 isn't exactly universal > condemnation Thanks for that Baldy, My world however consists of a much wider scope then pressf1. |
metla (154) | ||
| 284602 | 2004-10-26 05:13:00 | Its not the high usage that ruins it,its the practices of companies offering a service to get customers signed up knowing full well they have no intention of providing what the customer signed up for. Personally i have no issue with 15gb caps,but i do have an issue with an unlimited account that is anything but. |
metla (154) | ||
| 284603 | 2004-10-26 05:31:00 | and to think i was looking to get whoosh when it comes to southland and becomes a tad cheaper, not any more after what i just read, thats a load of bs *shakes head in disgust* |
Prescott (11) | ||
| 284604 | 2004-10-26 05:46:00 | > BOLLOX! Let's keep it clean, eh? There's really no need to that sort of language, is there? |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 284605 | 2004-10-26 05:49:00 | Did you read what Graham L wrote: >"Unlimited, subject to reasonable use". I would say that most people wouldn't consider 20gb per month reasonable. Personally I can't think of any reason what a home user could legally want to download that much. |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 284606 | 2004-10-26 05:56:00 | > > While I agree with that, we also need to consider the > abuse of the service. There are many parallels in > other areas. Imagine the place that advertises "all > you can eat pasta for $10". People come and eat their > full and go home happy. One day a greedy guts comes > in and eats 10 or 20 times the normal amount so the > owner withdraws the offer. What happened there? One > hog ruins it for everbody else. > > While I agree that it may not seem 'fair' to have the > terms changed, I'm quite sure that it is within the > agreement between the company and the customer. > > It may well be common for a particular type of person > to download many gb's per month, but it's obviously > clogging the system for Whoosh to have to take > action. As I said, the same thing happened with > Telecom and their testing service, a small percentage > of people stuffed it up for everone else. For Gordon Bennet's sake, POTUS - when you pay for a service that is unlimited, how can simply using it ever be abusing it? Woosh should have thought about this before they advertised their offers. Same goes for Telescum and the texting debacle. 20GB is not alot of data these days, especially on a bittorrent network when you are uploading alot. The internet has moved beyond simple email and basic webpages. It might be alot for you - but just because one chooses to participate in bandwith hungry pastimes, doesn't mean they are greedy. The bottom line is that Woosh are targeting a small market, and that obviously doesnt include heavy downloaders and gamers. Their current equipment just doesn't allow it. Their poor marketing has meant they have signed up alot of customers who are now disappointed and will probably never return, only now to spout alot of negative publicity about them. That's their own fault. For the sake of broadband in NZ, I do hope they improve and move to take a bigger market share. It might just give Telecon something to think about. But not for along time to come I'm afraid. |
barmypom (6048) | ||
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