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| Thread ID: 50584 | 2004-10-25 14:11:00 | Woosh is evil | Will Hunt (3655) | Press F1 |
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| 284587 | 2004-10-26 03:37:00 | > > My only other option is DSL, and that would cost > me > > at least $40 more per month :( > > Not any more Thanks to UBS = Unbundled Bitstream > service ;) which means bye bye Telecom fees :) (Do a > search for Press F1 for UBS etc.. for more info.) But true UBS will not exist for a further 12 months and is why Telecom are offering it's 2Gb/192Kb plans to other ISP users as well. In 12 months they will cut that off and you will need to go with Xtra or to UBS through your ISP. For now you can still pay Telecom and your ISP like I will be doing. $10 monre per month for a speed increase from 128/128Kb to 2Gb/192Kb for $79.95 per month total. I can live with that and it wont break the bank. Still too many expect to get everything for little or no cost at all. They obviously dont live in the real world where returns to shareholders is what drives prices up and competition acts against that and somewhere in the middle is the balance and this is what you have to pay. The other option is if you dont like the service then stop using it. Very simple. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 284588 | 2004-10-26 03:44:00 | > unlimited,that is how the account is advertised,promoted and sold While I agree with that, we also need to consider the abuse of the service. There are many parallels in other areas. Imagine the place that advertises "all you can eat pasta for $10". People come and eat their full and go home happy. One day a greedy guts comes in and eats 10 or 20 times the normal amount so the owner withdraws the offer. What happened there? One hog ruins it for everbody else. While I agree that it may not seem 'fair' to have the terms changed, I'm quite sure that it is within the agreement between the company and the customer. It may well be common for a particular type of person to download many gb's per month, but it's obviously clogging the system for Whoosh to have to take action. As I said, the same thing happened with Telecom and their testing service, a small percentage of people stuffed it up for everone else. |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 284589 | 2004-10-26 03:54:00 | They are the ones who decided to advertise and sell unlimited,the customer is just using the account as it was promoted...There is only one dishonest party,and one party abusing their rights....And its whoosh. If they want to sell a 15gb plan then they should do so,if they sell an unlimited account then thats what it should be. False advertising,Bullying tactics,They should be ashamed,not defended. If you want to compare it to food,its like selling an all you can eat,then after the client has finished the soup telling him thats enough,anymore is abuse and they will be charged accordingly. |
metla (154) | ||
| 284590 | 2004-10-26 03:56:00 | It is actually sold as "Unlimited, subject to reasonable use". That's clear to me. They have an FAQ explaining it for those who don't find it clear. I note that they have a business plan which provides 20GB/month (with speed of 500 kbps), for $999/month. I'd say that indicates what it's worth. ;-) Bandwidth costs money. A more sensible charging regime would charge per MB. That way, those who "need" huge amounts of bytes can pay for them, and not be heavily subsidised by reasonable users. I suspect there would be a sudden decrease in the number who"need" huge amounts. :D |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 284591 | 2004-10-26 04:07:00 | >>One day a greedy guts comes in and eats 10 or 20 times the normal >>amount so the owner withdraws the offer . If the owner withdraws the offer because of one customer, then so be it, the owner has made a decision . The owner will drive other customers away, whether it's worth it, it's the owner's decision . Customer on the other hand will just search a better place . Back to the broadband . . . If the owner withdraws unlimited plan, then users will go and find one that have unlimited plan . If the ISP can't offer true unlimited and think 20GB is too much, then why don't they just offer 20GB plan then? It's just greed . |
SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 284592 | 2004-10-26 04:08:00 | > > What a load of garbage,Whoosh have quite quickly > gotten a bad name,and it looks like for good reason. BOLLOX! They have got a very good name. One or two people complaining on PressF1 isn't exactly universal condemnation |
Baldy (26) | ||
| 284593 | 2004-10-26 04:12:00 | No ISP will provide an unlimited plan. They can't afford to. They would get all the greedy users (great :D) and either go bust, slap limits on, or start charging what it costs. Inifinite numbers of bytes cost infinite numbers of dollars. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 284594 | 2004-10-26 04:12:00 | >>they have a business plan which provides 20GB/month (with speed of 500 >>kbps), for $999/month. I'd say that indicates what it's worth. $999 ... for 500 kbps with 20GB cap ... that's insane ... My current plans is 2000 kbps with no cap, my montly usage should be around 50GB - 60GB and I pay only $120... |
SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 284595 | 2004-10-26 04:14:00 | >> No ISP will provide an unlimited plan. They can't afford to. Then how can other countries capable of doing it? ?:| |
SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 284596 | 2004-10-26 04:22:00 | > >> No ISP will provide an unlimited plan . They can't > afford to . > > Then how can other countries capable of doing it? > ?:| > Because they don't have companies like telecom controlling all the telephone lines, and there is plenty of competition |
Megaman (344) | ||
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