| Forum Home | ||||
| Press F1 | ||||
| Thread ID: 50605 | 2004-10-26 04:39:00 | Xtra's new "FLAT RATE" plans | bk T (215) | Press F1 |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 284846 | 2004-10-26 21:51:00 | LMFAO. Righty-o slick. |
metla (154) | ||
| 284847 | 2004-10-26 22:26:00 | One reason Broadband is so expensive in NZ is that people are flocking to buy it. If no one would buy it the price would tumble rapidly. And I agree that "flate rate should mean same product, one price. I know if you will read far enough Telecom will explain it's definition of flat rate. But I, like most people only read the headlines. S0 There! Jack |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 284848 | 2004-10-26 22:38:00 | > What I can't understand is why xtra has made upload > speeds so crap. 196 isn't exactly great is it. And > what ever happened to the free national traffic?? It > only cost like ... what .. 0.00001c per mb of data > for national. I would be happy with 2mbit/196kb and > free national, that is a true deal but ... I still > feel like I'm being cheated. It's to stop people running their own VoIP circuts. |
Ashley Matthews (550) | ||
| 284849 | 2004-10-26 22:44:00 | I guess its legal but its arguable in the courts be it a private case or one by the commerce commission or the like ... Just like airlines advertising .. oh, by the way you still have to pay airport tax and by the way these prices are only available at that time when the planes half full. Oh., and we also have a booking fee and we also have a petrol surcharge. Credit card we have no discounted rate but with cash we do give a small discount. So if I paid via cash and then considered c/c there is a fee? Oh. The real world is fascinating... Similar thing to cellphone I guess. If prepay all rate is 70c a min or so .. A business contract of 60mins is $40. You see sir, it is a business plan so its for people for makes more calls during the day. Ahh.. isn't that the same price as prepay? Oh yes indeed, but if u use more than the 60, you get a discounted rate. :^O |
nomad (3693) | ||
| 284850 | 2004-10-26 22:47:00 | Potus (www.cartoonstock.com). | Azsen (155) | ||
| 284851 | 2004-10-26 22:49:00 | Just out of interest, I was just thinking about other industries how they use shady tactics. Do Telecom or other ISPs when advertising use those tiny footnotes on the TV screen or on the newspaper telling them the definition of broadband or note terms and conditions and see ther website for for info?? If they have them .. hey its legal but is it readeable from the prospective client. | nomad (3693) | ||
| 284852 | 2004-10-27 00:23:00 | > > You are saying, and I've heard this nonsense touted > > before, that a business does not have to abide by any > > other rule or law, ethical, moral or otherwise . That > > is, other than to answer to it's shareholders? > > No, I didn't say that at all . I simply said that > their responsibilty is to their shareholders first > and foremost . they don't exist to provide a service > for the sake of providing that service . To believe > otherwise is naive . Of course business has to stay > within the boundries of the law . They also have to > consider public opinion if they want the largest > share of the pie that they can get . But they don't > have to be morally ethical because, in todays > society, moral ethics are not constant . > > > All these companies exist solely for the purpose of making a profit, > > > their only responsibility is to their investors Umm! so you didn't write that blue highlighted bit?? I think you've changed from a definitive statement to a broad statement to protect your position then imply naivety on the part of those that disagree or correct . Wow, the logic is underwhelming me . Your statements do not bare out the real world unless your solely talking about large, possibly multinational entities, that either have a near or total monopoly, ie, the ones that cop the most flack from the naive and simple minded for some strange reason . The rest (businesses) have to listen to a varying degree to their customers, both existing and the potential ones . A basic business tenant is: You ignore your existing customers at your peril, never take them for granted, ie, one in the hand is better than two in the bush, and consolidate before you grow . Question, what comes first: idea/product to sell, to customers/clients, shareholders? The answer can be found in good literature on business basics and principles, and in marketing literature for that matter . The moral ethics "not constant" argument is a bit spurious to say the least . It's about as constant as the law, one follows the other, they are intertwined . If you want to change your viewpoint, just say so . All due respect will be given, but don't change then claim to be disussing one and the same thing all along . Nuff said . Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 284853 | 2004-10-27 01:22:00 | > > You are saying, and I've heard this nonsense touted > > before, that a business does not have to abide by any > > other rule or law, ethical, moral or otherwise . That > > is, other than to answer to it's shareholders? > > > All these companies exist solely for the purpose of making a profit, > > > their only responsibility is to their investors The difference between what I wrote and what you say I meant is simply that I never claimed: > that a business does not have to abide by any other rule or law, ethical, moral or otherwise I never even insinuated it . > > > > The moral ethics "not constant" argument is a bit spurious to say the least . It's about as constant as the law, one follows the other, they are intertwined . Moral ethics, in NZ, are not constant . For instance, 30 years ago it was effectively illegal to be a practicing homosexual - it was considered morally repugnant . Now society is considering giving gays the right to "civil union" A few short years ago the use of the word "bugger" on TV would have been unethical . These are just two example of the shifting nature of morallity in modern society . One of the major divisions between the western world and Islam (topical) is the fact that we have adopted a set or moral ethics that would have been alien to our ancestors, but Islamic culture still hold on to morallity of yesterday . We call it modern and expect them to embrace our new world . Common Law is the result of public morals . Our law makers do not judge what is moral only what is legal - how can they, they're not trained in that area . BTW I'm content to discuss these issues with you, I won't insult you and I ask that you refrain from insulting me . Or don't your morals come up to that level? |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 284854 | 2004-10-27 01:33:00 | Homosexuality is morally repugnant,The difference is now sociaty understands they have no right trying to enforce their values into other peoples bedrooms. | metla (154) | ||
| 284855 | 2004-10-27 01:40:00 | Let's not turn this into a debate about gay rights. I used that as an example of changes in society. | POTUS (5276) | ||
| 1 2 3 4 5 | |||||