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285702 2004-10-28 10:27:00 Hi..
Can anyone help with a source for magnets for therapeutic use? Not magnetic underlays for the bed..just individual units about say 25mm diameter. In Hamilton would be good but other areas ok. Cheers....Ken
paradox (1082)
285703 2004-10-28 10:40:00 Try Here (www.surplustronics.co.nz) for relatively cheap magnets.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
285704 2004-10-28 10:47:00 Magnet (realgroovy.co.nz)


This science behind magnet therapy is at best just marketing,but those linked to are garenteed to be of therapedic value.
metla (154)
285705 2004-10-28 11:17:00 Rip apart old hard drives and you'll have two very powerful magnets approx 25 mm in diameter and about 1.5 mm thick perfect for theraputic use . I strip them out and give to the wife for muscular pain. I don't actually believe in them but hey, she likes them and makes her feel better so who am I to argue ?
Computer shops will often give away old tiny hardrives (40 -120 meg) after they wipe them with a ball hammer. I never refuse donations of old useless comps just so I can get the magnets out multitude of uses.
the highlander (245)
285706 2004-10-28 11:51:00 my.execpc.com zqwerty (97)
285707 2004-10-28 12:58:00 Hard as it is to believe, magnets really can help with pain. When I get a migraine, holding a magnet to my temple makes the pain go away, and I don't believe it!

Disbelief doesn't mean untrue. Vince :-)
Vince (406)
285708 2004-10-28 19:40:00 hmm magnets for therapeutic use?? is there any scientific proof of this working??? I work for a company that makes magnetic measurement equipment and out of interest we measured that magnetic underlays and the field they produce would not even reach your body, they seem a bit of a crock. Just wondering where the idea of magnets to help humans came from. Maybe we should all stand under power lines lol Budda (2736)
285709 2004-10-28 20:17:00 > Hard as it is to believe, magnets really can help
> with pain. When I get a migraine, holding a magnet to
> my temple makes the pain go away, and I don't believe
> it!
>
> Disbelief doesn't mean untrue. Vince :-)


LOL Man you must really like snakeoil to believe in magnetic quakery (www.chem1.com)! :^O
Greg S (201)
285710 2004-10-28 21:01:00 Only fools laugh at or mock that which they don't understand Greg.

My background is technical, and I am a confirmed and practising sceptic, but I am smart enough to know that not all things can be explained by logic or reason, and the power of the human body to heal itself through belief is unchallengable.

However, for validation of magnetic therapy you need look no further than the veterinary sciences. Animals know nothing of hype or snake oil, but the benefits of magnetic field therapy in the treatment of arthritic stiffness and pain are well recognised. You can't psyche a dog, cat, horse or elephant into thinking it feels better, it either does or it doesn't. You can even hire magnetic beds and jackets from Tech-Rentals.

That which is looked upon by one generation as the apex of human knowledge is often considered an absurdity by the next, and that which is regarded as a superstition in one century, may form the basis of science for the following one. - Paracelsus 1493-1541

Of course if you really meant quakery, then ignore this post. I assumed you meant quackery. :|

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
285711 2004-10-28 21:05:00 It is a fact that humans will believe anything to a greater or lesser extent, moreover humans feel compelled to have to believe in things that do not exist outside of their minds, or even of the collective minds of many .

Even some scientists who should have been trained to be discerning, critical, and operate by the scientific method of proof, can outside of their field of work, believe in "mumbo-jumbo" without the slightest shred of scientific evidence .
Then as a side issue we have the problem of 'widespread' scientific fraud .

Then when someone believes in something patently absurd and beyond logic, to them it becomes fact and they cannot be shaken from that belief .

When people have reached that stage it is a waste of time trying to bring them back to reality, because to them their belief is reality .

It is when we get into the world of pseudo science that these beliefs can in fact be dangerous .

Back in the twenties, and I cant remember his name, an American tennis player dosed himself on a radioactive thorium 'medicine' . Needless to say he died of brittle bones and radiation poisoning .

The late Victorian magazines were full of pseudo-scientific 'remedies' which were downright harmful .
Others, such as treatment of ailments by 'magnetism' and electricity were just quackery to fool the gullible scientifically uneducated masses .


It seems to me we have slipped back over a hundred years, back to the age of gullibility again, when science was a mystery to the mass of the population .

Sometimes I just can't "believe" :) that we are in the year 2004 .
Terry Porritt (14)
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