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285534 2004-10-30 04:58:00 does that brick by any chance weigh 20kg?
(just a random guess using about 30 seconds of algebra :p )
lagbort (5041)
285535 2004-10-30 05:33:00 > does that brick by any chance weigh 20kg?
> (just a random guess using about 30 seconds of
> algebra :p )

Yes, the brick must weigh 20Kg.

We need to fing 100% of the weight of the brick:

100% = 10Kg + 50%
100% - 50% = 50%

Therefore 10Kg is 50% of the brick's weight.
50% * 2 = 100%
or
10Kg * 2 = 20Kg.

Bletch
Bletch (244)
285536 2004-10-30 06:59:00 The brick is 20kg. Usually about half the people on quiz nights put 15kg Dally (6292)
285537 2004-10-31 08:37:00 >That leaves the rest to be borrowed

Aha! Therein lies the whole problem!

I am not attempting to prove anyone's logic wrong, I am trying to prove that, as you all no doubt agree, the question is shocking - I attack any 'logical' statement about the answer for one reason:

In a sentence, the confusion of many arose from the fact that the correct answer assumed that the mother had, as Dally explained, paid for the car at the beginning, at the same time he made his deposit - while most assumed that by being a deposit, it was the only money exchanged at the beginning.

I don't know about your experiences with marking, but to give this question a mark, no matter how logical the explanation, would make hypocrites of markers. I myself was lowered from Excellence to Merit in an internal because I said that one "selects" a sample, instead of "takes". Granted the can imply different mindsets, but the level of presumption required to take those as the same thing is roughly equal to level required here. You said so yourself Bletch, a whole sentence is implied.

So, no matter what your explanation, NCEA sucks.
Growly (6)
285538 2004-11-01 04:10:00 > I don't know about your experiences with marking, but
> to give this question a mark, no matter how logical
> the explanation, would make hypocrites of markers. I
> myself was lowered from Excellence to Merit in an
> internal because I said that one "selects" a sample,
> instead of "takes". Granted the can imply different
> mindsets, but the level of presumption required to
> take those as the same thing is roughly equal to
> level required here. You said so yourself Bletch , a
> whole sentence is implied.
>
> So, no matter what your explanation, NCEA sucks.


I agree, NCEA sucks :(. However, you must have a really hard internal marking system if you got downgraded only because of that one word choice. Most markers will allow you to use either 'takes' or 'selects' or even another word, as long as it is accurate and the meaning is clear. The only difference between these particular two words is this: 'takes' implies some preocess of harvesting, whereas 'selects' implies that you have chosen your sample, but have not yet harvested it. However for most purposes (including, I guess, your exam) these two words mean more or less the same thing.

Curse bad internal moderation!

Bletch
Bletch (244)
285539 2004-11-01 06:53:00 >Curse bad internal moderation!

It just makes me want to play some sort of violent first person shooter....
Growly (6)
285540 2004-11-01 06:58:00 > It just makes me want to play some sort of violent
> first person shooter....

UT 2004 = FUN!!

I have seen cases of people going down from a excellence to a N/A because of one question. In my chemistry mock test I got NA because i missed out a question because of bad page layout (no kidding!!! half the people didn't read the question) if i got that one Q i would have got merit.

:(:(
fus1_n (3818)
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