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Thread ID: 50833 2004-11-03 04:20:00 HELP! clearnet is stealing $3054 from me! bjf4 (6351) Press F1
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287429 2004-11-04 02:50:00 Good one Billy T. I'd think with three thousand at stake he would be pretty intersted, though OK it's not his debt, but is a friend's.

Maybe busy on the phone to the ISP.
mark c (247)
287430 2004-11-04 02:56:00 Are there "high value" sites that bill to your phone number for MB usage, a la how ISP's billing works?? Reading up on the dialer troubles of some Yank's a while back it appeared that not all was via 0900 numbers but by connections to websites even if the person had never viewed the material or bought any goods (as opposed to a services). Am I on the wrong planet?


BTW, clear.net's definitions of Flat Rate and Unlimited appear to be interchangeable which is at variance with discussions on PF1 a little while back. "And with the Flat Rate plan there are absolutely NO extra data charges" they go on to call these same plans Unlimited on anothe page with regard to ADSL and ISDN services.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
287431 2004-11-04 03:05:00 My concern is that the longer he leaves it the harder it is to retrieve the situation and it sounds like his friend who has incurred the debt is not going to be a whole lot of help to him .

The sooner a formal complaint/request/proposal or whatever is lodged with Clearnet the more credence they will have . I do a bit of this sort of work from time to time on behalf of others and the faster you get there the easier it is to fix .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
287432 2004-11-04 05:43:00 > Are there "high value" sites that bill to your phone
> number for MB usage, a la how ISP's billing works??
> Reading up on the dialer troubles of some Yank's a
> while back it appeared that not all was via 0900
> numbers but by connections to websites even if the
> person had never viewed the material or bought any
> goods (as opposed to a services) . Am I on the wrong
> planet?

You must be . No other company can add money onto your bill with another company without explicit instructions from you . And if they do you can take them to court and get the debt wiped as you did not agree to pay it .
I had a company (I wont say who because there has been enough whinging about them already) making charges to my credit card . I told them to stop and reverse the charges . They said they where not doing it so I called visa and got them to reverse the charges . They faxed me a sheet of paper I had to sign and then faxed it back to them . They reversed the charges .
Big John (551)
287433 2004-11-04 09:41:00 Just a thought on the inetrnal adsl modem issue. If it was an internal modem (or external USB modem/router) then surely the connection would drop out when the PC is off. That's not to say that the person doesn't leave the PC on all the time, however, in my experience, those who are not heavy users generally only turn them on when they want to use them.

J
:D
Jester (13)
287434 2004-11-04 09:58:00 I wonder if we'll ever find out what actually happened. It's strange that bjf4 hasn't posted since the initial post. POTUS (5276)
287435 2004-11-04 11:49:00 > You must be . No other company can add money onto your
> bill with another company without explicit
> instructions from you . And if they do you can take
> them to court and get the debt wiped as you did not
> agree to pay it .
> I had a company (I wont say who because there has
> been enough whinging about them already) making
> charges to my credit card . I told them to stop and
> reverse the charges . They said they where not doing
> it so I called visa and got them to reverse the
> charges . They faxed me a sheet of paper I had to sign
> and then faxed it back to them . They reversed the
> charges .

That's what I thought, but the situations I was reading about painted a completely different picture for the poor sods in the US of A who were being billed by 2nd, 3rd and in some cases 4th parties via their telecoms accounts . I'll have to dig it up again but, IIRC, they were not all dialup accounts that were being affected but some seemed to be combined with telecoms, ISP, TV et al .

Just goes to show it's not all bad news in our neck of the woods .

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
287436 2004-11-04 19:27:00 They were dial-up murray, just plain "premium rate" toll numbers.

The thread was on TSG
forums.techguy.org

Although some charges were billed even when dial-up was not available, which suggests something less than honest in that case.

Has no relationship the the problems of the poster here though as far as I can see.
godfather (25)
287437 2004-11-05 19:42:00 Can't remember where I read it, somewhere online, but there was a scam in the states where people set up a bogus phone company and sent out masses of bills for confusing sounding things like "national data forwarding" and enough mugginses paid the bills for them to make on it.

Then they got busted.:_|
mark c (247)
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