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| Thread ID: 50833 | 2004-11-03 04:20:00 | HELP! clearnet is stealing $3054 from me! | bjf4 (6351) | Press F1 |
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| 287419 | 2004-11-03 23:50:00 | > > So, someone would need to set up something like a > > VPN? > > > > Yup, it's been done before - routers with web > interfaces open to the world with default usernames > and passwords. > > Though it's kinda defeatist in terms of stealing > bandwidth as you've still gotta pipe it out thru your > own connection. > Unless, perhaps, if it's a zombie connection or connections? Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 287420 | 2004-11-04 00:36:00 | Yes your user name and password is tracked to a phone number, this is how you are billed. But the user name and password is not only usable on that phone number/line. If I new her user name and password then I could use her account, she will be billed for the data and I would get free internet. My Jet Stream is with Ihug but I can log into and use an Xtra account as long as I have the user name and password. This may not be the case in the future if I move to the new Blink plans but it does work at the moment. For example Jetstream games works on the same theory. |
Berryb (654) | ||
| 287421 | 2004-11-04 00:50:00 | Clearnet does not have ADSL with Residential customers, only businesess or staff. Have you logged in and checked the usage, thru www.clear.net.nz you also need to know what type of plan your friend is on IE 600Mb plan, like the rest have said Spybot, Adaware or its a type of P2P. |
Cave Servant (6124) | ||
| 287422 | 2004-11-04 00:51:00 | Yes, it's either file sharing or a rougue program of some sort. I have heard that there are various programs that highjack a system and can be used remotely to send spam and such like. I read recently that in the USA ISPs are planning on disconnecting PC that are being (mis)used in this way because it's reached epidemic proportions over there. Virus check, adaware or spybot and firewalls need to be run to determine the cause. Just because she doesn't use the PC much, or know much about how to use it doesn't mean that she's not prone to such attacks. Quite the opposite IMO. Her ISP is not responsible for her PC or the software that's running on it. There have been several cases in Australia where the ISP or Telco has revised bills, but they're not obliged to do so. |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 287423 | 2004-11-04 01:14:00 | > george12 is correct a dialler only works with modems > not adsl.........however others have suggested that > it could be a number of other reasons and this could > be tru..........traffic logs will help That's almost true - an internal (pci) adsl modem can act like a regular modem and dial out on demand from whatever application calls for it. Anyway - it's apparent (at least to me) that she has a trojan/worm imbedded. But it's about time that people took ownership for their online abilities - it's not dissimilar to getting a driver's license. Her account could not have incurred the costs unless she was online. Pay, I say! |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 287424 | 2004-11-04 01:26:00 | True, Greg, but computing has been thoroughly marketed as being so easy that you don't need any knowledge. "Where would you like to go today?" (After all, once you've got a computer you can turn off your brain. Many people do. ;-) ) As a cyclist I never expect any car driver to have their brain engaged, so driving licences aren't much of a protection. :D The Cellphone companies got into trouble overselling 2 year contracts with no pre payment to people who had no chance of paying the bills. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 287425 | 2004-11-04 01:31:00 | > True, Greg, but computing has been thoroughly > marketed as being so easy that you don't need any > knowledge . Yeah . This issue has been discussed in a lot of forums recently . What's the Latin . . . Caveat Emptor or something . I'd like to see a Pf1 sticky topic on the basics of Internet security, specially adsl which is getting rammed down un-knowledgeable throats |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 287426 | 2004-11-04 02:05:00 | I find the best way to get the use of another person's connection/bandwidth is to ask them for their user name and password. Very basic I know but a lot of people are trusting, not understanding the the bigger picture. |
fairway (5932) | ||
| 287427 | 2004-11-04 02:11:00 | > That's almost true - an internal (pci) adsl modem can > act like a regular modem and dial out on demand from > whatever application calls for it. BUt it can still only connect via ADSL. It can't dial 0900 numbers. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 287428 | 2004-11-04 02:45:00 | I kinda can't help wondering why bfj4 hasn't checked back in with further info. ?:| If this was such a red-hot problem I would have expected some feedback by now. There's a heck of lot of good advice going begging here. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
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