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| Thread ID: 50984 | 2004-11-08 01:49:00 | OE and IE to IBM 486 running Windows 3.11 | Morse (4575) | Press F1 |
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| 289266 | 2004-11-15 12:32:00 | If you need a MS-DOS bootdisk, you can download a DOS 6.22 (or win95b) version from: www.putergeek.com Click the downloaded .exe file and insert a floppy when prompted.. Bud-a-bing- one Dos 6.22 bootdisk. (instant mayhem) Boot using the DOS disk, format that sucker (type 'format c: /s' from the a:\ prompt) and when it's finished, re-insert the win95 setup 1 disk, reboot and type 'setup'. It should all be good. I hope. :P I can't for the life of me remember whether booting from a win95 setup floppy gets you to an a: prompt or to a graphical setup. If it gets you to an a: prompt, just try the 'format c: /s' from there. Catweazle |
Catweazle (2535) | ||
| 289267 | 2004-11-15 19:02:00 | I wouldn't worry about the /s switch - I doubt Win95 will need the DOS system files - and if your using a boot disk you don't need DOS on the hard drive. | HadO (796) | ||
| 289268 | 2004-11-16 00:33:00 | Delete the win.com file in C:\WINDOWS. That's what the W95 installer looks for. :D | Graham L (2) | ||
| 289269 | 2004-11-16 04:25:00 | Hi all...some reports - Terry - downloaded IE3 for Win.x from Tucows but file too big for floppy! Thanks your help. :) HadO - FDISK comes back "bad command" presume it is Windows based? Also CHKDSK EDIT and SCANDISK ALL 'bad command". Catweazle - I downloaded the Dos 6.22 bootdisk thanks. When booting from this disk message reads "Remove disks or other media. Press any key to restart". Did this and screen said "Starting Windows 95" then the C:\ prompt. Entered DIR command to see what was on hard drive. Result :- COMMAND COM DOS_6_~1 EXE WININST0 400 (DIR) Entered DOS filename EXE and reply was "program cannot be run in DOS mode". I checked DOS version and reply was "Windows 95 (version 4.00.950)" I had to copy the DOS file from the floppy to C drive before this. NEXT MOVE - Windows 95 Disk 1 (setup) to floppy and go. Messages received - Routine check - initializing - copying files needed :) thought I had it at this stage! NEXT MESSAGE - "memory parity interrupt (number group)" :_| Computer on hangup! So the sorry story continues with checkmates all round. Any further comments appreciated from knowledgeable types. (Yes I know, buy a new one) |
Morse (4575) | ||
| 289270 | 2004-11-16 05:34:00 | Morse > yeah I thought that would be the case - the commands would not be applicable in PC-DOS only MS-DOS (Microsoft's version)... If you had FDISK (a MS-DOS partitioning program) I think it would be easy... You could try using the FORMAT command from a floppy disk (don't use the /s switch) and then use the first Win95 disk as a boot disk again. The memory interrupt is a bit weird though... |
HadO (796) | ||
| 289271 | 2004-11-16 05:40:00 | Come to think of it FDISK is probably on the Win95 disk! I think you press F5 or F8 on startup and select safe command prompt only and chuck in the first Win95 disk - switch to it and FDISK could possibly be on there - you have to run it from a floppy... Once in it you should be able to delete all your partitions and then create a new one and then simply reboot with the disk still in and the install SHOULD go smoothly... |
HadO (796) | ||
| 289272 | 2004-11-16 05:41:00 | IE 5x was never released in 16 bit so it will never install on Win3x The highest version of IE that will install on Win 3x is the 16 bit version of IE 4 including the massive upgrade called IE 4 . 01 While 95 will install on a system with DOS - MS or PC - previously installed, the potential problems recommend installing 95 by itself . The actual problems created by mixing different DOS versions (in this case MS DOS and the version with 95) are self explanatory . Mixing and matching does not work . The installation of 95 from floppy (presuming they are the originals or copies of the originals) relies on booting from the setup disk . The setup disk is formatted as a 1 . 44 disk while the installation disks are 1 . 66 DMF (distribution media file) . Data transfer between machines is possible at DOS level using either a parallel cable, laplink cable (not to be confused with serial) or network cable depending on installed hardware and software available . Recommendation: Employ someone who knows what to do or purchase another machine . |
Merlin (503) | ||
| 289273 | 2004-11-16 06:21:00 | You have several problems here Morse, and with due respect as Merlin implies, you may be out of your depth. 1. IE3 for Win3.x won't fit on a floppy, you will need a file splitter to spread it over several floppies, or use a zip program to span the file over floppies. 2. If you get "bad command" it means that the dos program you are trying to run is not in the command path. That is, if the programs fdisk.exe and format.com are on a floppy, ie A:\ drive and you issue the command from C:\ drive, then the program will not execute and you will get the bad command message. 3. The dos 6.22 boot disk program Catweazle suggested is dos_6_22_boot_disk.exe. I take it you downloaded this to your hard drive and then ran it. If so it will ask you to put in a floppy, and the program will turn the floppy into a bootable one and also put a whole heap of files on there. You then boot the 486 from this floppy, and it will return the A:> prompt. You can then type from the A prompt format c: This will remove all data from the 486 hard drive. Before that though, it would be a good idea to run fdisk, and choose the option to see what partitions are there. The hard drive is probably 512MB or less so just have one dos primary partition and make sure it is set active. Now those win95 disks from the version number you quote is Win 95 A, the original release, without service pack 1. This release only used FAT16, so a dos 6.22 boot disk with fdisk and format is adequate, as you cant have fAT32 anyway. Also these disks are very old and likely to have "greeblies" growing on them, so scandisk each one first using scandisk off the boot disk. Win95 disk 1 should should as Merlin said be bootable so after formatting the HDD boot off disk 1, and it should then be plain sailing, providing you have a Win 95 number to put in when it asks for one, a number like 12396-OEM-0011156-74271 Of course I just made that up, I assume you will have a serial number with the disks :) |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 289274 | 2004-11-23 22:01:00 | Thanks to all for your helpful replies - much appreciated. I have tried all the avenues suggested and have come to a dead end for one reason or another. I eventually replaced the hard drive with from another 486 which I knew to be ok but it wouldnt load windows. In safe mode command prompt I got the message "memory parity interrupt at (group of numbers)" so it appears to my computer-illiterate brain that there is a problem in the memory area as well. Any final comments on this error message before I consign the whole deal to the next inorganic rubbish collection? Once again thankyou to all. :) :) :) | Morse (4575) | ||
| 289275 | 2004-11-23 23:39:00 | Just from the message it looks like a problem with your RAM - the RAM is probably the parity type and the data is getting corrupted somehow which is causing that error. It could also be a problem with how the data is being fed to the ram (mobo problem) but... without checking components one a time in a good system or being able to see what you are doing it's quite hard to say and it's probably not worth the effort to replace any components anyway. |
HadO (796) | ||
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