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288884 2004-11-07 01:25:00 I’ve still got an unresolved problem (aired here previously) with downloading pictures taken with a G-Shot D610 Digi-cam to my P2 computer running Win98se.

So far I’ve tried the following:

Tried the camera on 5 other computers and everything works perfectly, so I guess we can rule out a camera fault.

Only one of the other computers ran Win98se and the Camera comes with a driver for Win98. No driver is required for OS’s later than Win98. The other Win98 computer that everything works perfectly on is a P3 but the OS and Driver were installed from the same disks.

Ok, if I double-click on My Computer the Camera appears as Removable Disk (G:) but Double-clicking it produces the message G:\ is not accessible. The Device is not ready. Retry / Cancel.

Moving on to Control Panel / System / Device Manager shows all is well. No ! or?.

Clicking on Disk Drives reveals:

Digital Camera
Generic IDE Disk type 47
Generic IDE Disk type 47
Generic NEC Floppy Disk

Clicking on Hard Disk Controllers reveals:

Digital Camera USB MSD
Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo)
Secondary IDE Controlled (dual fifo)
Standard IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller
USB Mass Storage Device

Clicking on all of these just reports “This device is working properly” which is far from the truth!

I’ve installed, uninstalled, and reinstalled the driver more times than I care to count without success.

Any suggestions? Could it be the BIOS? It’s an Award V4.51 05/31/1997 but the only place I can find an upgrade is Bios-Agent and the US$60 they want exceeds the value of the computer and then we’re not even sure it would fix the problem.

Soooo, any suggestions would be more than welcome.

Bob
B.M. (505)
288885 2004-11-07 01:37:00 Has it got a mode button or similar on it?? Some cams do. Has it got a memory card slot? I take it, it has since its called removable disk when connected.

That USB mass storage device might be what it is. Or are u using an internal card reader, which would also come up as a mass storage device??

And whats the reqs for the cam??

It cld be that u have quite a few usb devices installed/attached already, or your power supply might not be high enough to handle all the USB devices u have (if any apart from the cam).

What exactly is BIOS agent? You shouldn't have to buy a bios update, if theres one available from the manufacturer of the Mobo. They're free.

How many USB ports onboard?? Have u tried all spare USB ports to see if it'll work properly??
Spacemannz (808)
288886 2004-11-07 01:43:00 Looks as if it's W98SE.:D Interesting that W98 works, though the driver might be specifically for 98, not SE. Have you tried the SE patches? (The free security CD from Microsoft seemed to bring things up to date, as well as security things.

I doubt if a BIOS change would do anything. An OS change might.:D
Graham L (2)
288887 2004-11-07 01:51:00 Yep Spacemannz, got a mode switch and that is set to PC.

If you disconnect the Camera you loose:
Digital Camera out of Disk Drives
Digital Camera USB MSD out of Hard Disk Controllers &
USB Mass Storage Device out of Hard Disk Controllers.

Only two USB Devices and have tried swapping connections.
Everything else works 100% from USB connections.

The Camera doesn’t have a card as yet but has its own non-removable 16meg internal memory.

Remember it works perfectly on all other computers. :(
B.M. (505)
288888 2004-11-07 02:04:00 Yes Graham, the OS was my best guess too, but I’ve now got two computers sitting side by side both running Win98se installed off the same disk, both with the same driver installed off the same disk, (that came with the camera) and both computers are right up to date with updates and patches.

One works 100%, one don’t work at all! :(

I’m reluctant to change OS’s because this is the first real problem I’ve had with Win98se and it’s working perfectly on one computer. I’d be real hacked off if I upgraded and still had the fault. The other thing is what do you upgrade a 233mhz P2, too, that wont overwhelm it? :(

Gotta be something about the BIOS – Chipset – USB ports????? But what????? :(

Bob
B.M. (505)
288889 2004-11-07 02:17:00 One thing I would try (in desperation) is to format the memory card on a PC . Preferably on the other SE machine . Otherwise . . .

I suppose a 233 pentium is old enough that they might still have been "practising " on the USB interface . My experience has been that they get computer interfaces right just before they become obsolete . It took a long time for the serial interface . . .
Graham L (2)
288890 2004-11-07 02:39:00 Again I agree Graham. What I can’t get my head around is why everything else that I’ve tried on the USB ports works perfectly.

For what it’s worth the faulty Computer is a PC Direct Discovery 580.

The BIOS is Award Modular V4.51pg
Bios Message: P5TX-B Ver2.1d

Motherboard: ECS P5TX-B (Elitegroup Computer Systems)

Chipset i430TX (Intel)

CPU: Intel PentiumMMX 233mhz

I’d like to flash the BIOS but, as I said in a earlier post the only update I can find costs US$60 from the Bios-Agent. :(

Can’t find anything on motherboard site although it is written in Chinese. :D
B.M. (505)
288891 2004-11-07 02:43:00 Try connecting through a A-A extension USB cable, or a hub. Maybe a bad connection between that particular cable and that particular port? Graham L (2)
288892 2004-11-07 03:35:00 Yea Graham, The cable and connectors were my initial diagnosis when everything else was supposedly working . The Camera comes with its own special cable, which works fine on the other computers, but doesn’t work on either port on the delinquent computer .

Mice, PS2-USB converters, and my new radio station work fine on either USB port of the delinquent computer .

Plugging and unplugging the camera shows it connecting and disconnecting to the computer so I don’t think it’s that, but were running out of ideas and options . :(
B.M. (505)
288893 2004-11-07 09:39:00 do you have a setting in the camera under usb . mine has PTP or Mass Storage . One setting works ok with win2k and the other works with winXP -- dunno why . Play around it with it . My cam, one setting works via My Computer however if I wanted to upload color tone curves into it I need to use the other setting .

I think winXP just uses one setting for both functions . . dunno for sure .
nomad (3693)
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