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| 290503 | 2004-11-12 01:27:00 | It's occured to me that you actually believe everything you say! Wow!! What colour is the sky in your world, Metla? Let's both just let it go now, eh? It's the weekend soon and let's look forward to a relaxing time. |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 290504 | 2004-11-12 01:29:00 | Yes,i believe it when i say there are better computers then Dells. | metla (154) | ||
| 290505 | 2004-11-12 01:51:00 | TIME OUT !!! melta go to the Blue Corner, POTUS go to the Red Corner & Sit there & DO NOT Talk :D |
MartynC (5610) | ||
| 290506 | 2004-11-12 03:31:00 | Well there's a lot of nonsense going on here from Dell loving Intel fanboys. Reasons for not buying a Dell or supermarket PC: * Proprietary parts. Makes upgrades far more difficult later on. If you want to add new RAM, you have to buy their particular brand, PSUs forget it, it will burn your motherboard out with their proprietary connectors. * Questionable assembly quality. These things come of an assembly line basically, you are not getting a custom, well built job. They are in a rush and will use hot glue if necessary (ref: PCco). * Specs deliberately vague so they can put cheap parts in them to save on costs. Tell me, do supermarket PCs advertise the CAS latency on the RAM or brand of it for that matter? Do they advertise the motherboard manufacturer? No. This means they can put some cheap quality parts in. Even give you a motherboard without an AGP slot. * Overpriced. You've got these cheap parts coming off an assembly line which you are paying 1.5x as much for, with retail store markup on top. Don't forget your paying for the tech support to India and a bit of commission for the Harvey Norman seller. My advice for first time PC buyer, try out Ascent and ring them up, email them to discuss your options. Even Metla would be committed to giving you a good system for a good price. Would rip apart a supermarket PC even in 2 years time. |
alphazulusixeightniner (185) | ||
| 290507 | 2004-11-12 03:47:00 | For an average computer buyer. Who cares what the ram latency is or what make the motherboard is. Who even knows what they are? A very experienced user probably want to know these things and the salesman is unlikely to know what he is talking about. So where do you go from there? So for a novice I would be inclined to stick with name brands. He might be getting inferior parts, but they will work and it will have a good warranty. Jack |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 290508 | 2004-11-12 04:02:00 | > For an average computer buyer. Who cares what the ram latency is or what make the motherboard is. That's a stupid attitude to have towards any purchase of anything. You have more money than sense. Research before you buy anything. Supermarket PC stores take advantage of the fact that the general consumer doesn't know anything about computers so they can put cheap and nasty components in and mark up the prices. The customer goes off to buy a super gaming PC at Noel Leemings worth $4000 and they get CAS 3 RAM, with a Prescott chip and a Radeon 9200. That same $4000 at a non-supermarket PC place like Ascent will get you a system performing at least two times better and you'll have quality components rather than cheap ones. |
alphazulusixeightniner (185) | ||
| 290509 | 2004-11-12 09:29:00 | > > For an average computer buyer. Who cares what the > ram latency is or what make the motherboard is. > > That's a stupid attitude to have towards any purchase > of anything. You have more money than sense. I think ]]]]] has a point. For the average buyer, the PC is a consumer item, and all it needs to do is to work. For the tech enthusiast or the overclocker, maybe scorning CAS3 in favour of 2.5 is important. I recall something in PCW ( or a similar mag) which pointed out that most PCs have far more grunt than most users ever need, and it is all driven by marketing. Don't sneer at "assembly line " stuff. All motherboards, digital camers etc start this way. As the articles in PCWNZ on building your own say, all you need to build a PC is a Philips driver and long nose pliers.... |
TonyF (246) | ||
| 290510 | 2004-11-12 10:01:00 | >Name brands cost more because they are "Name Brands" not because they are better.< Great , next time I I build a system I'll nip out and buy a pc chips mobo, Adata ram, A hairong case, an eagle video card, a genius sound card, a web excel modem, a cy-qve cd-rw, an itron mouse and keyboard and a proview monitor. I save megabucks and it will rock. :-( Get real |
the highlander (245) | ||
| 290511 | 2004-11-12 10:13:00 | > > Name brands cost more because they are "Name Brands" > not because they are better.< > > Great , next time I I build a system I'll nip out > and buy a pc chips mobo, Adata ram, A hairong case, > an eagle video card, a genius sound card, a web excel > modem, a cy-qve cd-rw, an itron mouse and keyboard > and a proview monitor. I save megabucks and it will > rock. :-( > > Get real Great stuff. Can I order one from you??? Cheers T |
TonyF (246) | ||
| 290512 | 2004-11-12 10:21:00 | > The point was that if one was inclined to put in the effort then they can easily get a better computer then a Dell. No, the point is that not every one is willing (or inclined) to put the effort in. Many people simply want to go to a shop, buy a PC, take it home, plug it in a off they go. Why can't you understand that? Sure, you're an enthusiast, but most people aren't - it's a really simple concept for goodness sake! Using your theory, why the heck do we buy ready assembled cars? Surely, if one was inclined to put in the effort then they can easily get a better car than a Holden??? > Are you all blind? When people continually fail to see what you see, en masse, perhaps what you see really isn't there after all? |
POTUS (5276) | ||
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