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| Thread ID: 51082 | 2004-11-11 03:21:00 | where to buy new computer? | mejobloggs (264) | Press F1 |
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| 290493 | 2004-11-11 23:01:00 | Well yeah,But he is asking about a single PC,he he asked about 50 or 100 then i would have suggested Dell imediatly. | metla (154) | ||
| 290494 | 2004-11-11 23:08:00 | I was not suggesting that to be the case, but I simply wanted to explain the high installed numbers of the major brands . While there appears to be no problem that I know of with Compaq, Dell etc, the reason that the large companies do not buy from the local PC store has nothing to do with their quality or price issues . Just with standardising of hardware . Thats the point that was supposed to have been taken from my post . In my case I have had to increase my computer base (at home) urgently for a specific job in the past, and have simply not had the time to get a system built . I can buy one over the counter and have it installed and going in 30 minutes, vs 3 days to get it built . Horses for courses . |
godfather (25) | ||
| 290495 | 2004-11-11 23:08:00 | We all have different levels of skill and understanding. It would not be helpful telling an older couple, who are buying their first PC and just wanted word processing and email, to do an in-depth research into the merits of various mobo, cpu and ram combinations. They don't want to know, they don't need to know and it would simply confuse them. A mass produced system with heaps of extras for around a grand would suit them down to the ground. On the other hand the PC equivelelnt of a boy racer who wants to play the latest and greatest games and who wants bragging rights amongst his mates perhaps wouldn't want a $1K Dell. Horses for courses. So many people think that the only good PC is the latest, fastest, coolest thing going for around $4000 - it simply isn't so. I have countless friends who have PCs that cost them 2 or 3 times what they should simply because some sales person blinded them with science and sold them a Ferarri when a Ford would have done the job adequetly. There's a huge market for sub $1500 PCs - Dell and others are simply supplying that market. We've all heard horror stories about big companies and big stores not fulfilling their obligations, just as we've all heard stories about small stores. But the fact remains that a big supplier is more likely to still be around for a warranty claim and a big store is more likely to be able to offer a lower price and perhaps throw in extras for free. |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 290496 | 2004-11-11 23:24:00 | > We all have different levels of skill and > understanding. It would not be helpful telling an > older couple, who are buying their first PC and just > wanted word processing and email, to do an in-depth > research into the merits of various mobo, cpu and ram > combinations. They don't want to know, they don't > need to know and it would simply confuse them. A mass > produced system with heaps of extras for around a > grand would suit them down to the ground. On the > other hand the PC equivelelnt of a boy racer who > wants to play the latest and greatest games and who > wants bragging rights amongst his mates perhaps > wouldn't want a $1K Dell. Horses for courses. > > So many people think that the only good PC is the > latest, fastest, coolest thing going for around $4000 > - it simply isn't so. I have countless friends who > have PCs that cost them 2 or 3 times what they should > simply because some sales person blinded them with > science and sold them a Ferarri when a Ford would > have done the job adequetly. There's a huge market > for sub $1500 PCs - Dell and others are simply > supplying that market. > > We've all heard horror stories about big companies > and big stores not fulfilling their obligations, just > as we've all heard stories about small stores. But > the fact remains that a big supplier is more likely > to still be around for a warranty claim and a big > store is more likely to be able to offer a lower > price and perhaps throw in extras for free. Thats nice,And would be relivent for an older couple with no suport asking for an email machine,in this case you have an interested person asking for something with grunt. And i could fill a book on the amount of older people that come to me as they can't get the required suport from the manufacter or the salespeople. Without someone to ask they are lost and the computer quiclky becomes ignored,I wouldn't send an elderly person down to get a supermarket pc if my life depended on it,I'm simply not that heartless. |
metla (154) | ||
| 290497 | 2004-11-11 23:50:00 | > Thats nice,And would be relivent for an older couple with no suport asking for an email machine,in this case you have an interested person asking for something with grunt. Actually that's not what the original query was. Here it is again to recap: > > Where? I was wanting to buy good quality, ready made ones, eg one of their packages, I dont have to configure it myself. > > I though Dell looked pretty good, but metla says they are low quality. Im not going to buy it untill April/May next year, so this is not a discussion on what cpu etc. I just want something above pentium 3ghz/ athlon 3200, and a Geforce 6800 GT 256mb. > > Good quality is important. Got one at the moment that is a pain, keeps crashing when it gets to high temperatures, and the company we got it from says its a software problem, and wont put in another fan or anything. > > Anyway, suggestions welcome. Please back them up with why the company is better than the rest or something. While he specifies a 3ghz cpu and a Geforce 6800 GT 256mb the rest is pretty much open. The author didn't stipuate a price until last night, With that amount of money to spend he'd be better off with a good local assembler like PBTech or Ascent My opinion stands - live with it or ignore it. > > > ,I wouldn't send an elderly person down to get a supermarket pc if my life depended on it,I'm simply not that heartless. I could be flippant and ask which supermarket was selling PCs', but I won't. I give free advice to a lot of elderly people on computers, are you suggesting I'm heartless? I have no personal bias at all. But you have not shown any evidence that a mass produced PC from a reputable company is a bad buy. And a large percentage of the world disagrees with you. Most people are aware that if you buy the cheapest available (of just about any product) you're unlikely to get top of the line. |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 290498 | 2004-11-12 00:00:00 | yeah yeah,nice one,Supermarket comps rock,. Carry on. Nothing new has been said in ages and you have already stated your posts directed at me were based on your petty need to get at me after i stepped on your toes. Go hard champ. |
metla (154) | ||
| 290499 | 2004-11-12 00:57:00 | do grow up Metla. There is no point to this any more, is there? Oh Great and Masterful Techie with a brain the size of a planet and an ego to boot! ;) | POTUS (5276) | ||
| 290500 | 2004-11-12 01:11:00 | Your a sad case aren't you Potus,the posts knocking others input were made by you,and the best you could offer was to buy a dell,and then follow it up later with 2 companies already recommended by others. Hopefully the threadstarter was able to glean a bit of info from those of us interested in helping him and capable of offering better advice then buy a supermarket PC. You have stated your agenda,and displayed your ignorance,. Carry on champ. |
metla (154) | ||
| 290501 | 2004-11-12 01:19:00 | In spite of what our expert says there is nothing wrong with "Supermarket Computers". You get what you pay for. Certainly they may have lower end parts, but so what. Basicly there are no bad computer parts today. They all do what they claim to. Name brands cost more because they are "Name Brands" not because they are better. If you are going to buy a computer the first thing you have to decide is what are you going to do with it. Then decide which specifications you need to do your job. Remember there is usually a big gap between what you need and what you want. A 486 100 would do everything I do on my computer, but I have a P4-3.0 with a gig of ram. Because I wanted it! Where to buy from. I would reccomend PCSale.co.nz. They have a basic model that they will modify as much as you please. And their prices are no worse than anyone else. I wouldn't worry about warranty too much. If you keep out of the box nothing much will go wrong. People who keep making warranty claims are mostly those who do a lot of fiddling and overclocking etc. In spite of what some self styled experts tell us I am convinced that overclocking does more damage than they will ever let on. If you want a faster computer then buy one. Also in spite of some of our experts there is nothing wrong with Dell. DO you think they would sell as many as they do if they were selling rubbish? Personally I would never buy anything from Dell ,but that is because of the way they post out their spam. It took me six months to get them to take me off their mailing list. And about 600 e-mails and four lots returned to sender. So if you contact Dell don't ever give them your name or address. Jack |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 290502 | 2004-11-12 01:27:00 | For gods sake. The point was that if one was inclined to put in the effort then they can easily get a better computer then a Dell. Are you all blind? |
metla (154) | ||
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