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| 290483 | 2004-11-11 10:08:00 | > If you read the thread he started making posts to me > completely unrelated to the purchase of computers > well before i started replying to him. If unrelated, bite tongue and don't reply. Bedtime. Bye Cheers Tony |
TonyF (246) | ||
| 290484 | 2004-11-11 10:15:00 | > ah yes, QMB, i forgot about that. Good and trusty is it? I really hope that anyone ever to write that would be being sarcastic. Very, very sarcastic. George |
george12 (7) | ||
| 290485 | 2004-11-11 10:16:00 | This entire shambles is backwards,I made no specific mention of the advice given by grahem or potus,Then i get told that my advice is only based on my personal circumstances and then potus wades in with half a dozen posts attacking my charecter. And im still in the wrong. |
metla (154) | ||
| 290486 | 2004-11-11 20:03:00 | > > ah yes, QMB, i forgot about that. Good and trusty > is it? > > I really hope that anyone ever to write that would be > being sarcastic. Very, very sarcastic. > > George I don't have a problem with them, and neither does my sister in law. Paul there is very good indeed. |
Chris Randal (521) | ||
| 290487 | 2004-11-11 20:10:00 | > This entire shambles is backwards,I made no specific mention of the advice given by grahem or pots,Then i get told that my advice is only based on my personal circumstances and then pots wades in with half a dozen posts attacking my charecter. > And im still in the wrong. metla, just to help you understand what happened take a look at the tipic entitled: ECS Laptop @ DSE. In that thread you got upset that I thought differently to you. Your opening gambit against me was: >> Potus,what ever you do,don't ever stop for a second and think that others may know exactly what they are talking about. Quite a put-down, eh? I guess I let you wind me up a bit and perhaps I was a bit harsh on you in this topic. But that's an example of the phrase "give a dog a bad name...". The moral or this story is that if we are all nice to one another nothing will come up behind us to bite us on the backside, will it? |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 290488 | 2004-11-11 20:50:00 | So Joe, the message is to deal with a reputable specialist computer business. Personally I do not believe in dealing with bulk retailers. Computers are prickly beasts with a host of possible problems no matter how new. They are a long way from a toaster or TV in terms of reliability and simplicity. Metla knows his stuff. His prejudice against Dell is based on reason and experience. He is also correct in saying that there are a small number of members here who are expert on componentry. However, we should also recognise that Dell, HP etc would simply not survive, let alone thrive, if their machines were rubbish. I've used HP and Compaq for years without complaint. Breakdowns certainly, but all fixed. A good warranty seems to be the key, wherever you buy. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 290489 | 2004-11-11 21:38:00 | > My Dad is buying it for his business . He doesn't really trust anything that is not a massive company . All he really looks for, is how likely they are to be still around in 5 years really . There is nothing wrong with that . We all hope that retailers we purchase from will still be around in five years . > > If I can convince him what company to buy from, and why, then he will probably let me choose the pc specs to "build" it myself . Do you mean build, as in actually screwing it together, or just chosing all the specs? I meant assemble the computer yourself . However, now that I know what the computer is for I think it would be better for you to just choose the parts and have it assembled by a reputable computer specialist or (dodges flames) get a preassembled brand computer . Let them deal with any warranty issues should you be unfortunate to have any . My advice is to go with a local store if going custom-built so that if it does have any issues you won't need to be without it for too long . Just make sure it is a recommended one dealer - don't just blindly pick one out of the yellow pages . If you want to go with Dell (regardless of what Metla says :p) it would be wise to pay for the extra warranty for next day onsite service (or whatever it is) for maybe three years . I have heard that they have a good reputation for their extended warranties . We should really be asking what kind of work the computer is going to do . That would have quite a bit of bearing on what specs would be necessary . |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 290490 | 2004-11-11 22:11:00 | > We should really be asking what kind of work the > computer is going to do . That would have quite a bit > of bearing on what specs would be necessary . Going to be used mostly for business . Word, Email etc . but also 3d rendering is part of my Dads job . And I like games :) The 3d renderings take a while on the current computer . Athlon XP 2100, and he wants it a faster, and way more stable than this one . |
mejobloggs (264) | ||
| 290491 | 2004-11-11 22:30:00 | All i was saying is that pound for pound one can get better quality and price then a brand name computer,This isn't even an opinion.Its a fact. As is often the case there are more considerations then just value for money and quality,His location being the next major issue and his fathers views seeing as he is making the purchase... The non-brand avenue is only suited to those inclined to put in 6 minutes of effort and get something better. My main recomendation after suggesting a non-supermarket p is to shop from a local with a good name,If none are available then a supermarket PC starts once again looking more desirible,There is no way a computer purchased online from another part of the country can provide on-site suport,which is entirely nesercary in a corperate enviorment. Being a dedicated computer forum i would hope that better advice then whip down to Noel Leemings and buy a HP is available to people who ask. What next?,tell everyone having an issue to load up there recovery cd? |
metla (154) | ||
| 290492 | 2004-11-11 22:53:00 | metla raises Corporate support, an area that I have much experience in . In a real Corporate environment, the outsourcing of all support is commonly contracted to a single support organisation . You simply cannot have multiple support companies or they will blame each other for issues . For that reason, there is a need to standardise on hardware that the client buys, which usually eliminates the local computer shop as a source (unless they also provide the support for that site) . That is why you see a lot of Compaq or Dell in companies . Its hard to support widely varying types of hardware economically . Its nothing to do with the quality of the local supplier, either good or bad . If you have 50 PC's, its better that they are all the same type . For my home PC's, I have had 8 "brand names" and 4 "locally built" PC's since early 1980's . Never had a problem with any brand name ones . One minor issue with locally built ones (compatability of hardware) . They all became obsolete well before they became worn out or unreliable . |
godfather (25) | ||
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