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| Thread ID: 51082 | 2004-11-11 03:21:00 | where to buy new computer? | mejobloggs (264) | Press F1 |
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| 290463 | 2004-11-11 07:21:00 | > Anyway, suggestions welcome. Please back them up with > why the company is better than the rest or something. www.computerdirect.co.nz Personal experience and very good after sales help. Steven, the guy who runs the place is hugely experienced. Prices aren't the world's best, but he'll negotiate when he can. |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 290464 | 2004-11-11 08:49:00 | > Plus it needs to be taken into account that i work on computers daily,and know the ins and outs of near all the hardware,brands,prices,performance. > No wonder my qualified views based on real worl experience were dismissed in the face of market share. You don't have a monopoly on skills, qualifications or experience. Why can't you accept that other people simply don't share your opinions? Why do you think that the vast majority of end-users, both private and corporate, choose to buy big brands? Are you seriously suggesting that we all shop at the IT equilivant of the dairy? Also, I find it very hard to believe that anyone could really know the in and outs of near all the hardware,brands,prices,performance. After all, do you really get to use an/or test all new products realeased in NZ? |
POTUS (5276) | ||
| 290465 | 2004-11-11 08:51:00 | > Hi Metla....as your post shows, I would appreciate your thoughts on the following comp >Packard Bell, P4 3.2ghz with H/T >with 512kb Level 2 cache >half a meg of ram >Radeon 9200 128mb 8xAGP TV out >160 gig HDD >Win XP home edition Although I am not metla, I will answer your post anyway :). First, I assume that you mean half a gig of ram, or 512MB. Well, it's a pretty nice PC - you chose the specs well. That graphics card is low end but it is still so much better than integrated graphics that you should be happy. After all, your needs define what hardware is 'good' for you. As for the brand, from personal experience only, I would say to go with another brand next time. Let me tell you the story. My friend bought a Packard Bell PC from Harver Norman, as part of a deal where you buy a $2499 laptop and get a free PC. In short it was aweful. It was literally falling to pieces (bits falling off case / into case). The RAM was DDR333 (outdated). The power supply was (shudder) proprietory. It was a Celeron 2.4Ghz, 256MB of RAM (64 shared to graphics). It carried the Designed for Windows XP logo, but ran far-from perfect with Windows XP. No Windows CD or partition came with the computer, so when the operating system needed a format he was forced to borrow an XP disk (and use his key). No drivers CD either, it all had to come from the internet. There was no mention of the computer ANYWHERE on the internet except Trademe (being sold), and Harvey norman (where he got it from). The only 3 results. When ringing Harvey normal Re the warranty (all these faults) they said to contact Packard Bell directly. When he did this, they said that they had never made such a PC. When further checking (talking to more informed people) he found that it had only gone half way through production, and been sold to Harvey Norman for next-to-nothing. This was why they were being given away with the laptop. The thing was never officially made. So, no CDs, no warranty. In fact, it came with NOTHING other than the screen keyboard, mouse and speakers. But you case is obviously different. If it works, I wouldn't complain. Cheers |
george12 (7) | ||
| 290466 | 2004-11-11 08:57:00 | > metla, you do tire me . ad hominem > arguments are not arguments . When will you > understand that? You claim to be a mature > businessman . Why not stop behaving like an 8-year > old in the playground when the teachers aren't > watching? You know,I had to look up ad hominem,Probally due to my breeding,anyhow what your suggesting is that i wouldn't recomend a Dell because I would like to sway the market towards computer stores,And in your logic probally my computer store . Heres a news flash for ya,My mind ain't that small,stupid or petty . The motive behind my input into this thread was to give advice enabling the thread starter to get a quality computer at a good price,same as my motive for anyone who asks about computer advice . You ever notice that when it comes to specific hardware advice its up to a small handful on this forum to help out? . . . Due to the fact most of you (Dell Lovers) don't know what cpu you are running,let alone having the ability to advise someone else on what core cpu to select and which Motherboard to match it up with . But god damn it,the minute packages come up you all start yelling Dell,and then back it up with market share . How the hell is recomending an overpriced computer that you know nothing about justified with the reason of market share? Is that good advice? Its uninformed crap,and if its the best that you can do you should keep it to yourselves . |
metla (154) | ||
| 290467 | 2004-11-11 09:01:00 | > > Plus it needs to be taken into account that i work > on computers daily,and know the ins and outs of near > all the hardware,brands,prices,performance . > > > No wonder my qualified views based on real worl > experience were dismissed in the face of market > share . > > You don't have a monopoly on skills, qualifications > or experience . Why can't you accept that other people > simply don't share your opinions? Why do you think > that the vast majority of end-users, both private and > corporate, choose to buy big brands? Are you > seriously suggesting that we all shop at the IT > equilivant of the dairy? > > Also, I find it very hard to believe that anyone > could really know the in and outs of near all the > hardware,brands,prices,performance . After all, do you > really get to use an/or test all new products > realeased in NZ? Nice coming from a guy who knows nothing about his recently purchased cpu,or the family of cpu's its in,or the extended family its related to . I have no idea what you done for 22 years in the IT industry but you might want to think about heading back for another 22 and paying attention . . . . |
metla (154) | ||
| 290468 | 2004-11-11 09:07:00 | Hi all I have been watching this thread tonight since I got home. ( I do work during the day mostly in helicopters cruisy eh) However Metla I do not always agree with your comments probably because I am 60 years old, but tonight I do and I find when your actually settle and talk computers you do know what you are saying!!! but I find the bigger computer companies here eg: Noel Leeming, Bond & Bond both owned by the same company Power store & Smiths city staff no nothing. I deal with a local guy who can not only read what I want but also does awesome back up. I do not know a lot about computer but when I have to tell the staff of national companies what to do (polity) it makes me wndow. I say stick local and get to know them. |
arnie (3836) | ||
| 290469 | 2004-11-11 09:09:00 | Spell check did not work either. | arnie (3836) | ||
| 290470 | 2004-11-11 09:21:00 | >Why do you think that the vast majority of end-users, both private and corporate, choose to buy big brands? < They are cheap and get volume discounts >Are you seriously suggesting that we all shop at the IT equilivant of the dairy?< No something like going to a Deli and personally picking quality cheese instead of going to the supermarket and buying chesdale. >Also, I find it very hard to believe that anyone could really know the in and outs of near all the hardware,brands,prices,performance. After all, do you really get to use an/or test all new products realeased in NZ? < Probably Metla doesn't get to test every new product or brand but constant contact with a variety of products, reading, research gives you a pretty comprehensive knowledge base and anything else takes 5 minutes to research other reliable opinions eg price, specs. It helps if your a fanatic about comps :-) |
the highlander (245) | ||
| 290471 | 2004-11-11 09:32:00 | > Jo, is there any reason why you don't want to have a > go at building your beasty yourself? It's not that > hard and you have this forum to help out with > choosing the parts and provide guidance . > > If I can do it, so can you . :-) Well, I will explain more . My Dad is buying it for his business . He doesn't really trust anything that is not a massive company . All he really looks for, is how likely they are to be still around in 5 years really . If I can convince him what company to buy from, and why, then he will probably let me choose the pc specs to "build" it myself . Do you mean build, as in actually screwing it together, or just chosing all the specs? . orangecomputers . co . nz/ has also been recommended to me . Apparantly high quality products at good prices, and they are a growing and stable company . But apparantly their website is not very good, and to get a proper idea of things, you have to ring/email" target="_blank">www . orangecomputers . co . nz/ has also been recommended to me . Apparantly high quality products at good prices, and they are a growing and stable company . But apparantly their website is not very good, and to get a proper idea of things, you have to ring them . What do you guys think? So far, the possible options are: http://www . pbtech . co . nz http://www . ascent . co . nz Does anyone have any problems with, or prefer one over the other for these 2? Anyone know what their support is like? |
mejobloggs (264) | ||
| 290472 | 2004-11-11 09:36:00 | > >Why do you think that the vast majority of > end-users, both private and corporate, choose to buy > big brands? < > > They are cheap and get volume discounts Next business day on site service is our reason for choosing a Dell Server. A large business should never skimp on the server. Lo. |
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