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Thread ID: 51047	2004-11-10 06:13:00	Linux, what can you do with it?	Prescott (11)	Press F1

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289987	2004-11-10 07:54:00	Prescott, if you want a CD with Yoper, and an earlier version of Mepis, I'd be happy to supply them. Just post back a couple of CD's to replace mine when you have some going spare. I also have some of the smaller distro's that will run on older machinery. What will linux do that XP can't? Be a server or a firewall or a router, or a full on development tool (at no or very little cost), not catch a cold on the net but still be functional in a modern up to date sense (which 98 ain't, but will still do the job depending on your needs), not cost you an arm and a leg for a decent productivity suite, save files to pdf natively, give you real security (modular not monolithic/global), non-destructively partition your drives (usual caveats apply), generally it will not break itself, it is much more scalable if needs be (which XP ain't and 98 doesn't come close to). A Linux can be just as confusing and frustrating as XP, but that's mainly for those that are new to it (see breaking above). But as you go along you slowly realise that there is way to do just about anything any OS can do if you know how and want to. It isn't perfect or the panacea of the worlds ills, it's different and from a different vendor and has some different capabilities that's all. No doubt an extensive list of things that XP can do and, a Linux, can't can be put up just as easily as the above. Vive la differance. Murray P	Murray P (44)
289988	2004-11-10 08:04:00	I've dual booted with win2k before on the same drive but, I feel a damn sight safer with the OS's on separate drives, as now. You could resize/partition from windows, then partition that partition during the install or use a live CD with QtParted which is similar to Partition Magic (some say a clone). My next step is to have a windows box and a linux box (can't get the family PC away from my son and his games ;) ), and a router/firewal box, running linux of course. Keep them as separate as you can, especially if you have critical data on the windows side. Murray P	Murray P (44)
289989	2004-11-10 08:05:00	> so your advising partion my 40gig and make a 5gig > partion? > i dont wanna lose all my stuff on the 40gig, can i > partion it from windows? With Yoper you can resize and partition your hard drive during the installation process. Just make sure you have anything important on your Windows partition backed up first tho.	Jen C (20)
289990	2004-11-10 08:06:00	murray, yes please, i will send you back some cds if you can supply me the linux's as you said, is the yoper the latest version? throw me your addy and ill email you my details cos i dont really like the whole world to see my address etc thanks very much	Prescott (11)
289991	2004-11-10 08:11:00	IE 6 works fine - allthough I have stayed with IE 5.5 - Acrobat reader 5.0 does all I want - Adobe photoshop 7 likewise. Only site I am carefull of is Astalavista. I do have another one with XP Pro on, but the firewall - outpost, works overtime. Bye	Peter H (220)
289992	2004-11-10 08:42:00	Ive got Vector Linux 4.3 which would be ideal for the 166Mhz if you wanna try it on that. DeLi Linux is another Light-weight distro. Otherwise, Ive also got Yoper, or it may pay to speak to Jen_C about the latest Fedora Core 3 which is probably the 'standard' for linux (The Distro). Yoper is rather 'bleeding edge' and not quite as stable, but yes it is fast. Im yet to try ubuntu linux but am told its compiled with LDFLAGS which is similar to yopers prelinking except its not quite as likely to break things. End of the day you can only get true speed through Gentoo, but thats for a few months down the track if you really want ;-) Yoper/Fedora and Vector/DeLi Linux :-) Vector Linux is only 350MB Download if you wanna try it yourself. Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
289993	2004-11-10 08:53:00	man these are big file sizes, im gonna wait for murray to throw his details in and get him to send me the cds and ill give him back a few cds, ill have a look at vector linux 4.3 anyway.... man it sucks to have 56k and having broadband not available in my area....	Prescott (11)
289994	2004-11-10 09:08:00	mm8 at paradise dot net dot nz. If your going to give Ubuntu a try you may as well go with Mepis, which is along similar lines but much further down the development track. Mepis has been getting rave reviews lately, is Debian based, so can use a huge repository of well tested packages (app's, upgrades etc. The Yoper version I have is one kerel back from the lates. I have downloaded and installed the new kernel but can't get my eth going with it for some reason that still eludes me (another ? for another time). Simple enough to get around, I just boot into the older version instead, which was only released mid year, so isn't exactly ancient. Yoper's not that bleeding edge is it Chill? I find it very useable, ok I get into trouble from time to time, I'd do that with any distro I think, haven't given PCLinux or Xandros a run yet though. Fedora would be good, but it's not small, although you don't have to load the whole lot, I think you would be better (if size is an issue) to get a distro that has enough good app's to be totally functional right from the get go off one - two CD's with the odd addition. I'll bow to superior knowledge on that though. Murray P	Murray P (44)
289995	2004-11-10 09:15:00	murray, you got mail :D	Prescott (11)
289996	2004-11-10 09:17:00	Yoper is bleeding edge, the developer Andreas is deliberately following this line to attract the gun developers to his team who wish to work with the latest/greatest features. If you are on dialup, a distro which comes with a lot of packages may suit you better as you do not have to download so much. Yoper does have a very nice selection of packages all on the one CD, but you get no choice to what ones you want - the whole lot gets installed. A distro such as Fedora comes with 4 CD's - that is a lot of stuff! Chances are as a newbie desktop user you will not require most of them but at least you will have a good choice selection during install to choose from.	Jen C (20)
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