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290655 2004-11-12 10:39:00 Hi Stumped,

I just had a look at the docs that came with the board and I have the Studio Deluxe with the "Professional Quality Breakout Box" :) I obviously bought it when I was having one of my delusional episodes :D

Basically the box connects to a port in the capture card via a metre long cable. It has S-Video, Composite and Audio input/output connections. These connections aren't duplicated on the card as the only other connectors are two firewire and an audio/speaker out.

At the time I bought it this was the only option that had both the Analogue and Digital input capabilities.

Hope this clarifies things :)
Gorela (901)
290656 2004-11-12 11:41:00 > The expert's sound is plugged into a spare audio
> connector internally on the mobo) . Thats the diff
> between the expert and deluxe for sound .

Oh there is a major difference between the Deluxe and Expert models - an incredibly disturbing difference .

Although both are great cards - only the Expert card supports Stereo sound in both FM and TV modes .

The deluxe model lacks the glorious Stereo sound ability in TV mode - the only way around this is to use an external provider for the TV signal (video and audio L+R) and capture it using the "Stereo capable" input mode . . .

It's really quite disgusting considering they "used to have" a big "STEREO" emblem on the box . . .

BUYER BEWARE
HadO (796)
290657 2004-11-12 11:48:00 drb1:
I would rather a P4 1.5Ghz with SD-Ram @66mhz and a 5,400rpm HDD than a 1.3Ghz with SD-Ram @ 133Mhz and a 15,000rpm SCSI drive any day.

The CPU is the bottleneck, not the HDD or the RAM - That's what Im getting at here.....

Metla:
Yeah, I guess you are right - Which is why some cards are just no good at capture, but some play fine....... :-/
Chilling_Silence (9)
290658 2004-11-12 12:27:00 > drb1:
> I would rather a P4 1.5Ghz with SD-Ram @66mhz and a
> 5,400rpm HDD than a 1.3Ghz with SD-Ram @ 133Mhz and a
> 15,000rpm SCSI drive any day.
>
> The CPU is the bottleneck, not the HDD or the RAM -
> That's what Im getting at here.....

Chill,

In capture? or manipulation after capture?

D.
drb1 (4492)
290659 2004-11-12 13:16:00 Both! Chilling_Silence (9)
290660 2004-11-12 13:58:00 chill,

Then why the big push for so long on graphics manipulation stations having more ram than cpu?

As in the G5?

If its all cpu, multi cpu blade units would logically be the way, or clusters?

D.
drb1 (4492)
290661 2004-11-12 18:40:00 Well thats wrong too BOTH are stereo, if u plug speakers in to the audio out of the computer itself. Spacemannz (808)
290662 2004-11-12 19:12:00 Thanks a lot Gorela
I'm now looking at 2 cards

This one comes with no editing software which doesn't bother me as I figure it is a card that will use almost any software & the fact that it doesn't come with any, means I'm paying for all card, so it should be better quality
It also doesn't muck around with sky & TV watching etc that I'm not interested in, it does one thing, captures video.
www.imagingtechnology.co.nz

This one because of price
www.imagingtechnology.co.nz
It seems to have more features as well as being cheaper

Can anyone see something I'll need that's missing from either of them?
I'll do some googling for reviews etc as metla suggested
Stumped Badly (348)
290663 2004-11-12 19:22:00 More RAM - Yes.... Faster RAM - No....

See, the reason you'd want more RAM is to hold it all open for "faster-than-hdd-access". Realistically as an end-user you will notice precious little (If any) different between RAM speeds. What you will notice is that its faster than your HDD.

End of the day - If Im going to be working with video - I want a faster CPU.

I had a gig of RAM in my familys AthlonXP 1700+ @ 1.46Ghz. To convert a DivX AVI file to DVD it took approx 47 hours. This was done using Sony's DVD Architect. The RAM was DDR333....

To do the same thing on my P4 2.8Ghz Linux Laptop w/512MB Ram (Admittedly using native Linux software) it took just under 3 hours.

Admittedly different software was used, but I think you can see the point is not how much RAM.
Chilling_Silence (9)
290664 2004-11-12 19:23:00 > Can anyone see something I'll need that's missing
> from either of them?
> I'll do some googling for reviews etc as metla
> suggested

Eh? Metla???

*Chill goes back over the thread to see if he an Metla are both suggesting the same thing again, or is my mind playing tricks on me....
Chilling_Silence (9)
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