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291269	2004-11-13 21:33:00	The cosmetics of a computer don't really bother me, it's the affordability, performance and more importantly reliability that are of importance to me. Thanks for your input though :)	Charlize (5486)
291270	2004-11-13 22:07:00	From my observations the minscule market share of macs is made up of women and those with an artistic bent. The majority of mac owners buy macs because of aesthetic reasons and to make a statement not due to their admittedly impressive build quality. (much the same way as some people buy floral printed, scented toilet paper, the logic of which has always escaped me) They do have an advanced and stable operating system and in some areas they are superior to pc's. But in the long run imho they are irrelevant.	the highlander (245)
291271	2004-11-13 22:32:00	PC's are superior because: They have a greater range of operating systems; They have a greater range of software; Easier to upgrade; More ergonmically friendly (eg multi button mouses); Less expensive; More powerful; More technical support; More modifiable; More abundant (= easier to work on in different environments, eg home/work) Nuff said!	Greg S (201)
291272	2004-11-14 00:41:00	Whatever computer handle the work (or play), fits the budget, and matches the curtains is the best computer. Sometimes the right computer is no computer, just a pen and paper. :D None is superior.	Graham L (2)
291273	2004-11-14 01:06:00	End of the day it doesnt matter aye..... You should be running Gentoo on either hardware ;-)	Chilling_Silence (9)
291274	2004-11-14 01:07:00	> There is the Economic quality choice, PC runnig linux Having used both, Linux isn't a patch on OSX > Take either over Crashdoze. My Windows installation hasn't crashed for months and months. One problem that MS has to contend with is the many differing hardware and software combinations. Apple avoided that by licensing clones and keeping a tight grip on that area. That Windows crashes on a regular basis is an argument that disappeared a long time ago. While we're on the subject, ever wonder why Win95 was released at Win95a then Win95b. Alpha and Beta versions? :)	POTUS (5276)
291275	2004-11-14 01:21:00	A few myths here: > PC's are superior because: > They have a greater range of operating systems; Linux is available for the Mac... just hove many flavours on Linux do you really need? > They have a greater range of software; True. But if you know what you want to run, you'll probaly find an alterntive package for the Mac - games excluded. > Easier to upgrade; Incorrect. I've upgrade a number of iMacs easily. Although hardware compatability is an issue, it doesn't matter if you know where to look. > More ergonmically friendly (eg multi button mouses); Out of the box, yes. But I have yet to find a USB mouse or keyboard that doesn't work with the Mac > Less expensive; Incorrect. The start price of an eMac is comparable with a PC of similar quality. More powerful; Definately incorrect. Macs use a different range of chips and comparing a Mac with a PC based only on Ghz if folly. A bit like comparing a P4 3ghz with an AMD XP 3000+ that actuall runs quite a bit slower but performs just as well. More technical support; Probably correct. A while ago I slowly explained to a lady I knew that if she bought a Mac then her circle of friend wouldn't be able to support her because the were all using PCs More modifiable; Incorrect - but why do you need to modify the computer adfinitum? > More abundant (= easier to work on in different environments, eg home/work) I haven't a clue what that actually means. The Mac is as useful at home as it is at work. Charlize, what do you actually want to do with a computer?	POTUS (5276)
291276	2004-11-14 01:21:00	> My Windows installation hasn't crashed for months and > months. Same here - approx 18 months of use... had a few software freezes admittedly... Task Manager sorts them out, but not a single crash/BSOD on my XP SP1 machine. To this day I don't even know if my Reset button works! :D	Greg S (201)
291277	2004-11-14 01:45:00	Lets get down to brass tacks - DirectX 9.0c - when Linux or a Mac can emulate this 100% then I will switch - Linux is getting close in some areas I hear... The PC vs Mac war is everlasting - they are completely different machines from the CPU upwards. Macs use the RISC design concept for their CPU which should provide better performance than a PC at a lower clock rate and their OS' are buit on a UNIX design and physically they are designed for quiet and cool operation with extreme gloss so they SHOULD be a better machine all round... but... IMO they are only useful for multimedia design or an internet workhorse which is what most people use them for. I remember having huge arguments with a guy at college (going back a few years now) about his "PowerPC" Mac and why it was so ungreat - he insisted it was a superior machine to a PC and even when games where thrown into the mix he was always going on about this one game for Mac only - I think it was a FPS - anyone know what that would have been?	HadO (796)
291278	2004-11-14 02:59:00	> Lets get down to brass tacks - DirectX 9.0c - when > Linux or a Mac can emulate this 100% then I will > switch - Linux is getting close in some areas I > hear... Well Im sorry to hear that because you'll never be using Linux or a Mac then will you!?! See http://www.transgaming.com - Cedega is good... Wine compiled with opengl extensions works well (Ive used it with the origional Half-Life no issues!) > The PC vs Mac war is everlasting - they are > completely different machines from the CPU upwards. Oh for sure :-) > IMO they are only useful for multimedia design or an > internet workhorse which is what most people use them > for. I would agree there.... Im curious though, do Mac's get Buffer Overflows or is the CPU clever enough to discard any data over and above the buffer limitation? > I remember having huge arguments with a guy at > college (going back a few years now) about his > "PowerPC" Mac and why it was so ungreat - he insisted > it was a superior machine to a PC and even when games > where thrown into the mix he was always going on > about this one game for Mac only - I think it was a > FPS - anyone know what that would have been? There are games for Mac's.... Personally I've decided not to run anything _but_ gentoo. Although in saying that I run Win98 on a Desktop Ive got here next to me that I use to try out software before recommending it to other people. That and it drives my DVD+/-RW because I couldnt afford a USB 5.1 Channel Soundcard for my laptop.....	Chilling_Silence (9)
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