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Thread ID: 51213	2004-11-14 18:12:00	PressF1 Survey: Are we not tough enough?	Moderator (5700)	Press F1

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291972	2004-11-16 06:00:00	Because it provides security that there is a fixed point of contact that moderators can use? Doesn't really help that you could just temporarily add another email alias to, say, your Orcon account, and delete it as soon as your account is activated...	agent (30)
291973	2004-11-16 07:13:00	Agreed. > Because it provides security that there is a fixed > point of contact that moderators can use? > > Doesn't really help that you could just temporarily > add another email alias to, say, your Orcon account, > and delete it as soon as your account is activated... One way around it would be for people who are emailed by admins/mods and it bounces x times get their identity terminated (maybe disabled would be a kinder reaction, just in case). The email addys don't need to be located where spam bots can get them. From my experience you only get spammed from addys that are posted online, not ones that reside in a data base on a server. I'd like to take my current ID with me, but if it can't be done, phzzzzzt. It could be useful for new users to get an idea of longevity, I often look at that in forums to gage the experience of the user, along with what they're saying. It's not hard and fast though, just another possible indicator of worth. Murray P	Murray P (44)
291974	2004-11-16 08:04:00	> One way around it would be for people who are emailed > by admins/mods and it bounces x times get their > identity terminated (maybe disabled would be a kinder > reaction, just in case). Im sure Mary would love that :-) > The email addys don't need to be located where spam > bots can get them. From my experience you only get > spammed from addys that are posted online, not ones > that reside in a data base on a server. Same here... or post it in a way that's not normally readable, like: Chilling _ Silence @ Mydomain dot co dot nz people can put the puzzle pieces together.... > I'd like to take my current ID with me, but if it > can't be done, phzzzzzt. It could be useful for new > users to get an idea of longevity, I often look at > that in forums to gage the experience of the user, > along with what they're saying. It's not hard and > fast though, just another possible indicator of > worth. I do too, especially at places like forums.gentoo.org where there's a myriad of experience. At the end of the day though, those with High post counts shouldnt have too hard a time regaining a small number.... That's kinda why I like rating systems, but simply find they take up too much time to be viable for me to bother with filling in :-(	Chilling_Silence (9)
291975	2004-11-16 08:20:00	dIsAgReE The IDG/pressf1 moderators are fine and do a good job its all the clayton moderators that suck. They must troll through every post so they can whinge about something. Do I know whinging when I see it, I was on RNZN ships for 10 yrs and about 20% of the complement was poms. tedheath	tedheath (537)
291976	2004-11-16 11:07:00	IDG should probably put some kind of disclaimer on the registration page that non-staff now have access to members personal information. E-mail addresses, IP addresses and the like - has the potential to pose some privacy issues.	ninja (1671)
291977	2004-11-16 11:43:00	> IDG should probably put some kind of disclaimer on > the registration page that non-staff now have access > to members personal information. > > E-mail addresses, IP addresses and the like - has the > potential to pose some privacy issues. Moderators need to be tougher, Email add to isp, Alises, waste of time and money. Also the black dressed one has a very valid point. D.	drb1 (4492)
291978	2004-11-16 18:31:00	Yes tedheath, I have nothing better to do with my time than whine about posts made on an Online Forum.... Not only am I working my ass off at work at the moment, between three jobs, but im also trying to learn programming. Ive never been in the army, military, navy, whatever..... But I see enough trash talk here to make up for it.	Chilling_Silence (9)
291979	2004-11-16 20:44:00	When I siad Clayton moderator I meant moderators without the black chess pawn looking thing. tedheath	tedheath (537)
291980	2004-11-16 21:08:00	I know I shouldn't respond as it just adds fuel, but . . . . . >> The IDG/pressf1 moderators are fine and do a good job its all the clayton moderators that suck . They must troll through every post so they can whinge about something . Do I know whinging when I see it, I was on RNZN ships for 10 yrs and about 20% of the complement was poms . It is just that sort of remark (and I wont qualify it with an adjective), which generates trouble . It has now stirred Chill, (even though he made have misread it) and that is the very first time ever on PF1 that I've seen Chill react like that . I'm a 'Paper Kiwi' too, and I dont 'troll' through posts looking to whinge, in fact this must be my very first whinge as such :) I dont know of any other 'Poms' on PF1 trolling and whingeing either . The remark is quite without foundation and has no logic behind it . Now for a question Ted . When I first came to NZ nearly 30 years ago there was all this mention of 'Clayton' . The only Clayton I knew about was the English firm that made steam generators and boilers . I asked around and no one could tell me what they meant even though they were using the word . So what does it mean?	Terry Porritt (14)
291981	2004-11-16 21:15:00	Clayton - some years ago a firm brought out a non alcoholic drink that was a poor imitation of whisky (shudder). Jack Thompson, Aussie actor, fronted the commercials that said Claytons was the whisky you were having when you weren't having a whisky. Or something like that. Mercifully the drink died. Claytons has now come into the vernacular to mean a poor imitation, a meer pretence of the real thing. Actually I just looked up my NZ dictionary and the slogan said "the drink I have when I'm not having a drink".	John H (8)
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