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Thread ID: 51295	2004-11-17 02:37:00	ot the meaning of life.	Thomas (1820)	Press F1

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293086	2004-11-21 08:59:00	Marg, I think you've got it slightly wrong. There's too many listeners and talkers , there's not enough people with real knowledge and the experience to empart it, prepared to impart it, or perhaps they're not allowed to in this PC day and age (PC, an oxymoran if ever there was one), instead everything is delivered in a caring sterile invironment. There is at least plenty of education to be had, but on the other hand, bugger all learning. Hmm! I guess, on that reasoning it's not so easy is it. The bright ones will still do well, as always, the ones that keep their heads down, don't challenge, will be ok......... The topic? My meaning remains unchanged. Murray P	Murray P (44)
293087	2004-11-21 09:09:00	>>The youths today are facing a much tougher world than we did Granted i'm going to jump back a couple of generations,But the youth of today got to miss out on going to war,widespread illness,disease,and limited law enforcement. They have education and life skills shoved down their throats,Help in any direction they turn,counsellers,job guidence centers,charities.If they don't want to work the Govenments gives them an allowance to buy beer and video games. Employment is at an all time low, housing, training, clothing and food is available to anyone who wants it,No job or effort required. hmmmm........	metla (154)
293088	2004-11-21 13:38:00	You're right about everything they are being given Metla . So how come so many youths take their lives, how come so many of them are now on antidepressant drugs, how come CYPS books are chokka full of kids needing help and protection, why are so many "halfway houses" being created for these youth? When I was nursing in A&E dept, they told us that the people who were brought in after "attempting" suicide were crying out for help . Those who really wanted to take their life actually did it, as 2 that I remember did - 1 drank a can of insecticide, the other slit his throat . I don't have the answers . Maybe its just this generation and the next one will be different .	pulling hair out (4493)
293089	2004-11-21 14:02:00	Hi Thomas. >>you draw your strength from without it would seem Well yes and no. I've always had to be independent coming from a family of 9 kids and boarding school at 12ys old [after 5 of us girls, the Nuns had had quite enough of us and the feeling was mutual]. I always stood up for myself without relying on others and would never ask for help. But Xmas 2 years ago I had a health problem which has taken away some of my confidence and independence. Family and friends rallied around and I've finally realised that accepting help doesn't make me weak and pathetic afterall. So guess I'm now a bit of both. Regards, Marg	pulling hair out (4493)
293090	2004-11-21 22:44:00	> You would agree that the mass of people simply go > along with the nanny state,depressing to say the > least. Philosophy and politics are not taught in schools. Or at home at the dinner table (except in our house ;) ). Parents are primarily responsible for educating children about life and exposing them to different ideas. Sadly this doesn't happen enough. I don't like nanny state either but when people look at the wealth and favourable working conditions in Europe - the bastion of Nanny States, with subsidies and benefits galore - it is difficult to argue against it here. Odd isn't it. Young people in developed economies have more affluence and education today than ever in history. Yet some of them succumb to depression and ennui. Perhaps it was ever so, but we are now more aware of it. Maybe this isn't new at all.	Winston001 (3612)
293091	2004-11-22 05:24:00	To my way of thinking, people are all different (some more than others). To a degree, we all react to situations differently. Some are more sensitive to what is going on around us, some don't let things get to them. Sometimes, people who react badly to negative input, get mixed up with a group which likes listening to music that is negative, and philosophizing among themselves about how much life sucks and it would be better if they where someone else of live somewhere different. All one can do is try to add some positives into there lives to balance the negatives. Some will shrug it off and get on with living, some will take it to heart as with this case. Of course there are those who will try to end it all, no matter what the situation maybe due to some physiological disorder or another. And no matter what, some who we think are OK, won't be. Depending on what you believe, this may or may not be the only life you have. Also, depending on what you believe, how you live it may affect you in the here after. I'd rather play it safe, try to have fun, roll with the punches, and not get on too many peoples wick.	Craigb (688)
293092	2004-11-22 07:38:00	>Odd isn't it. Young people in developed economies have more affluence >and education today than ever in history. Yet some of them succumb to >depression and ennui. Perhaps it was ever so, but we are now more >aware of it. Maybe this isn't new at all. It boils down to fact that there have always been those at the bottom,the children up the chimney's,the cannon fodder of old etc.now we pay them to hang around and annoy us with unpleasantness.	Thomas (1820)
293093	2004-11-22 08:28:00	We need some chimneys and canon then! Were do we get them around here in sufficient quantity? The trouble is, our world's run out of colonies, we've become far too introspective . Unless you have black goo and lots of intolerant fervour, the youth issue is going nowhere . Murray P	Murray P (44)
293094	2004-11-22 09:19:00	> Unless you have black goo and lots of intolerant fervour. Sounds good Murray,do we drown them in black goo or what;).? I meant to say that with all of us it seems to be a matter of aspiration,without we are lost,wouldn't you say?If that is true,then we don't need a penny to get on with it.	Thomas (1820)
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