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294602 2004-11-22 01:30:00 My Paradise number is 086727235 - If you go in to properties for Email, bith AVG & Avast change them - turning off the scan part, doesn't alter them either. I got so peeved off with them, using Drive Image, I rolled way back to before I tried either of them. Go Tools - Accounts - properties - servers & advanced & reset them to the original.
Bye 		Peter H (220)
294603 2004-11-22 03:39:00 Thanks to all. I got an 0873 number from a most helpful lady at Paradise
and all appears to be going OK. I don't know why but it did the trick. 		amadeus38 (6431)
294604 2004-11-22 03:46:00 0873 numbers connect you to Telecom provided hardware - usually used in areas where the ISP doesn't have a point of presence.

0867 numbers connect you to hardware owned and managed by the ISP, if they have a point of presence in your area. If they do not, 0867 calls are automagically reouted to the 0873 service.

As stupid as it seems, some modems will behave fine with one set of kit but not with another. It is not unusual for someone plagued with connection problems to be shifted from one number to the other and presto problems solved.

Compatibility problem thru and thru. 		ninja (1671)
294605 2004-11-22 04:00:00 > As stupid as it seems, some modems will behave fine
> with one set of kit but not with another. It is not
> unusual for someone plagued with connection problems
> to be shifted from one number to the other and presto
> problems solved.
>
> Compatibility problem thru and thru.

So your suggesting it's a modem problem rather than a software probelm then? (and given that most modems today rely on windows and software anyway).

That's interesting, I would have thought that it would be email client, antivirus or windows, in no particular order, but wouldn't have figured in the modem at all if there were no (obvious) connection issues.

Murray P 		Murray P (44)
294606 2004-11-22 04:13:00 > So your suggesting it's a modem problem rather than a
> software probelm then? (and given that most modems
> today rely on windows and software anyway).
>
> That's interesting, I would have thought that it
> would be email client, antivirus or windows, in no
> particular order, but wouldn't have figured in the
> modem at all if there were no (obvious) connection
> issues.

Yeah, mail seems to be a little more sensitive to this kind of thing than normal browsing. I know it was reasonably common on our network, one batch of PC's would work fine on 0867 but not on 0873, then the next shipment would be the reverse. 		ninja (1671)
294607 2004-11-22 04:36:00 > I'm glad to see someone else thinks this way as well.
> The helpdesk is quite correct - the e-mail protcols
> are not designed for sending files, it's sort of a
> tacked on afterthought which is fundamentally
> broken.

And if everyone thought the same way you do the internet would not exist as it does today. E-mail can be used to send massive files if one wants to and the server accepts them. There is no issue at all except with what the administrators allow.
What other way do you want to transfer the file? Maybe FTP? Well not every place has an FTP server available and certainly homes do not run them. Maybe you want to store it on someone elses space and have that person pay for it?
IPv6 just means extra IP addresses so that we are not running out. It wont do anything for for extra services for e-mail that dont exist already. 		Big John (551)
294608 2004-11-22 04:51:00 > And if everyone thought the same way you do the
> internet would not exist as it does today. E-mail can
> be used to send massive files if one wants to and the
> server accepts them.
> What other way do you want to transfer the file?
> Maybe FTP? Well not every place has an FTP server
> available and certainly homes do not run them. Maybe
> you want to store it on someone elses space and have
> that person pay for it?

Did you read the post at all? I'm not saying it doesn't work in most cases, however it's not designed for it. Other issues are that there is no standard for attachment size, some servers will accept it, some won't. Clients on dial-up regularly have problems with large attachments. Attachments are a huge vehicle for viruses thanks to the click-happy nature of those using them. The list goes on.

I could slide down the hill on an old ironing board to get to work in the morning - it'd work, but it's not designed for it.

I could slice up a salad by tipping the lawnmower upside down and throwing vegetables at it - it'd work, but it's not designed for it.

Do you think if e-mail was intended to be used for mass file transfer that it'd increase the size of attached files by 30+%? I mean after all bandwidth was just so plentiful when e-mail architecture was being designed wasn't it? Logically e-mail would REDUCE file size if it was intended to be used as a data transfer mechanism, but of course that'd make too much sense.

> IPv6 just means extra IP addresses so that we are not running out.
> It wont do anything for for extra services for e-mail that dont exist
> already.

I never said IPv6 would fix it, but embracing IPv6 is a time for rolling out new technology to handle it and changing the way a lot of systems operate - it'd kinda make sense to introduce a different way of handling mail to overcome this.

> There is no issue at all except
> with what the administrators allow.

Never mind what the clients can actually handle downloading? The total size of most mailboxes being 15MB or less? Just because you can send it out doesn't mean it'll be a breeze for someone else to get it back in again. 		ninja (1671)
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