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| Thread ID: 135523 | 2013-11-13 07:28:00 | Latest on Climate Change | Terry Porritt (14) | PC World Chat |
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| 1359699 | 2013-11-15 23:21:00 | Think about it, the world almost froze during the ice-age and it came back from it.. I think it can handle a 4% change in Co2 output from us humans. | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1359700 | 2013-11-16 04:07:00 | Good grief, a while ago there was a month and change of rain and almost the whole kaboodle got surface flooded to death, except those who had a convenience of the ark. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1359701 | 2013-11-16 04:15:00 | some say that was a myth? | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1359702 | 2013-11-16 04:43:00 | principia-scientific.org | johcar (6283) | ||
| 1359703 | 2013-11-16 06:33:00 | Think about it, the world almost froze during the ice-age and it came back from it.. I think it can handle a 4% change in Co2 output from us humans. True. On a geological timescale we are actually in a coolish period right now and the average Earth's temperature over the past 500 million years was about 4 degrees warmer. There is evidence of verdant growth in Antarctica in the distant past - although thats a bit of a mystery too. I've no doubt some humans can survive the warming but many will not because they live in crowded poor countries. Should we just shrug about that or try to slow any warming? The other point is human activity is poisoning the planet. Most people become uneasy when they learn of the plastics floating in the oceans (like the Pacific Gyre) and acidification of sea water. Most people recoil when told they can't use the local swimming hole safely. Despite the poisoning by pollution, millions of humans will be fine. Some fish and plants will be fine too. So we have to ask ourselves if the others - the hundreds of millions of people, flora and fauna being wiped out is an acceptable consequence of our current lifestyles. Some people will say yes, others such as those in the Philippines will say no. Personally I abhor pollution and waste and do what I can to reduce it. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1359704 | 2013-11-16 07:51:00 | True. On a geological timescale we are actually in a coolish period right now and the average Earth's temperature over the past 500 million years was about 4 degrees warmer. There is evidence of verdant growth in Antarctica in the distant past - although thats a bit of a mystery too. I've no doubt some humans can survive the warming but many will not because they live in crowded poor countries. Should we just shrug about that or try to slow any warming? The other point is human activity is poisoning the planet. Most people become uneasy when they learn of the plastics floating in the oceans (like the Pacific Gyre) and acidification of sea water. Most people recoil when told they can't use the local swimming hole safely. Despite the poisoning by pollution, millions of humans will be fine. Some fish and plants will be fine too. So we have to ask ourselves if the others - the hundreds of millions of people, flora and fauna being wiped out is an acceptable consequence of our current lifestyles. Some people will say yes, others such as those in the Philippines will say no. Personally I abhor pollution and waste and do what I can to reduce it. Agreed Winston. However because any probable changes are slow to take effect one way or another the human race will make the changes required to survive. I am far from being a radical greenie but am in full agreement that polution is not a good idea. |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1359705 | 2013-11-16 12:59:00 | Agreed Winston. I am far from being a radical greenie but am in full agreement that polution is not a good idea. Agreed, and when Colin Craig was recently interviewed he also took that stance, one which I fail to see anybody being able to easily dispute, regardless of their stance on global warming / climate change. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1359706 | 2013-11-16 19:26:00 | some say that was a myth? It was not so regarded by the non-swimmers. Well, according to the great book of fables anyway. Reputedly it was an early version of a reward scheme for brand loyalty, if so I reckon it beat fly-buys into a cocked hat. ;) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1359707 | 2013-11-16 19:41:00 | So now the Greenies are trying to twist things and change from Global Warming, to Climate Change, to Pollution . :lol: Their credibility is shattered . (good link johcar) :thumbs: But for the records, when it comes to "Wonton Pollution" I’m with the majority and believe measures should be taken to curb it . For a start I believe that Council Rubbish Dumps, or Transfer Stations if you prefer, should be open seven days a week during daylight hours for you to dump your rubbish free of charge . That way disposal can be handled professionally . I know our Council charge like a wounded bull to dump rubbish and then moan like hell when people chuck their rubbish over a bank and Council has to clean it up . They should be encouraging people to take their rubbish to the Dump, not trying to fleece them . A few years ago where I live they used to have an inorganic rubbish collection once a year and you should have seen the amount of junk that was put out kerbside for collection . However, now they expect you to take it to the Dump yourself where they can then rip you off . Anyway, if the Councils were genuinely interested in curbing pollution that is somewhere for them to start . However, Wonton Pollution does not equal Global Warming or Climate Change . :angry |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1359708 | 2013-11-16 20:43:00 | The main problem is we will all be in our graves rotting, or for some, snuggling up to our various heavenly friends, before the true results of our stupidity will be fully apparent. Your great-grandchildren will curse our names for procrastinating for so long over reducing carbon emissions (amongst other issues). What price progress? |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
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